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Originally posted by renbiv renbiv wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill?  Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.

Just found out it's because both Amtill strips are toouch of a clash with Donny's home strip.


I thought the home team changes, think of it as your main and change kit. the home team has access to all their kit, and the expectation is the travelling team would bring 1 kit, their main kit, then in the event of a clash the home team have the ability to change, hence you would typically see the home team in their change kit. That's how I think it works/should work, but I am sure others more in the know will correct me if I am wrong!

Obviously, as you added, there can be some teams where both kits clash, then there needs to be some further planning to mitigate that!

 
Regulation 13.6.3i.e. It is the responsibility of the AWAY team (NOT THE HOME TEAM) to change shirts if there is a clash of colours.

Obviously clubs ought to have enough nous to ensure that their 'home' and 'away' kits are completely different though.
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Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill?  Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.

Just found out it's because both Amptill strips are too much of a clash with Donny's home strip.

Home teams have traditionally changed.

I do remember though London Welsh came to Blues in their away blue kit once.  I think they may have done that to try and wind us up, as we already said we were playing in our normal blue one.

The result was Blues got out their old red 3rd kit and gave it to London Welsh to play in their traditional colours.  Welsh then covered up the Blues logo.


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Here we go again:
London Scottish 0 - 5 Coventry 
Nottingham 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates 
Doncaster 4 - 1 Ampthill 
Bedford 5 - 1 Caldy
Cambridge 4 - 1 Chinnor
Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury 

From a Doncaster perspective, I’m a little nervous about this opening fixture. Ampthill beat us twice last season and are never an easy team to beat. They will see all the hype about Donny during the summer and they’ll be massively motivated to give us a bloody nose. I’m looking forward to the game though - it should be a cracker. 
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From level 2 to 4 it has always been the away side that has has to change. This has been the case for the last 21 seasons of my involvement as kit guy for my club. It's not old school I know but if you have 13 shirt sponsors on your home kit they get a little peeved if they don't see their name on the shirt. Change strips can last for at least 5 years if you only need to wear it 2 or 3 times a year.  
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Originally posted by SKalpy SKalpy wrote:

From level 2 to 4 it has always been the away side that has has to change. This has been the case for the last 21 seasons of my involvement as kit guy for my club. It's not old school I know but if you have 13 shirt sponsors on your home kit they get a little peeved if they don't see their name on the shirt. Change strips can last for at least 5 years if you only need to wear it 2 or 3 times a year.  
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Doncaster and Ampthill have played against each other on numerous occasions before. Why is there a problem now?
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Blues have 5 Saints in the squad, as they picked up a number of injuries against the Saints although I almost forgot that Jake Garside is a Saint!

Bedford Blues starting XV:

15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Fred Tuilagi, 7. Jac Arthur, 8. Cameron King

Bedford Blues Replacements:

16. Nathan Langdon, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. Jake Garside, 22. Toby Cousins, 23. Joel Matavesi

Unavailable for selection this week:

James Fish, Alex Woolford, Rory Ward, Joe Howard, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley



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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Apparently the RFU have instructed Doncaster to wear their change strip because of a clash with Amptill?  Shouldn't it be the away team who changes.

Just found out it's because both Amptill strips are too much of a clash with Donny's home strip.

Home teams have traditionally changed.


Very many years ago when I started watching rugby I recall this being the case but I guess it changed with the advent of professionalism, league rugby etc.

With regard to changing shirts Harlequins didn't have a change shirt for 140-odd years until the Premiership ordered them to not only have one but to wear it on occasions. Yet another instance of them getting it wrong in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Cherub Cherub wrote:

Doncaster and Ampthill have played against each other on numerous occasions before. Why is there a problem now?

Agreed. Unless I'm out of the loop, do Ampthill still not play in their traditional maroon and gold, and Doncaster in blue? A non-issue surely.
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London Scottish 2 - 5 Coventry. A closer game than it might be if played later in the season, but the full-time outfit to win after a solid pre-season.
Nottingham 1 - 4 Cornish Pirates. Ditto here, but less tries being run in at a greasy Lady Bay.
Doncaster 5 - 1 Ampthill. Donny to start off on the right foot this year and give Ealing a run for their money at the top, maybe.
Bedford 5 - 0 Caldy. The honeymoon period for The Ravers is over, and the rest of the league has worked them out. Proficient up front, but lacking creativity and flair in the backs. Many scores here to please the Blues faithful.
Cambridge 4 - 1 Chinnor. Game of the week, for the fact it'll be a real dogfight from start to finish (much like their seasons as a whole) scrapping for points to keep the Champ dream alive (along with Caldy). Home advantage and a fuller pre-season to swing it for the B&S this time.
Ealing 5 - 0 Hartpury. Ealing to drop very few points all season, and this time next year (deservedly) starting their maiden voyage in the Premiership.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Blues have 5 Saints in the squad, as they picked up a number of injuries against the Saints although I almost forgot that Jake Garside is a Saint!

Bedford Blues starting XV:

15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Fred Tuilagi, 7. Jac Arthur, 8. Cameron King

Bedford Blues Replacements:

16. Nathan Langdon, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. Jake Garside, 22. Toby Cousins, 23. Joel Matavesi

Unavailable for selection this week:

James Fish, Alex Woolford, Rory Ward, Joe Howard, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley

So George Smith moved to a Prem club to play Champ rugby?
It figures I guess...
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Blues have 5 Saints in the squad, as they picked up a number of injuries against the Saints although I almost forgot that Jake Garside is a Saint!

Bedford Blues starting XV:

15. Louis James, 14. Matt Worley, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois (C), 11. Alfie Garside, 10. Will Maisey, 9. James Lennon; 1. Joey Conway, 2. Tommy Herman, 3. Oisin Heffernan, 4. George Smith, 5. Luke Frost, 6. Fred Tuilagi, 7. Jac Arthur, 8. Cameron King

Bedford Blues Replacements:

16. Nathan Langdon, 17. Jamie Jack, 18. Bryan O’Connor, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. Jake Garside, 22. Toby Cousins, 23. Joel Matavesi

Unavailable for selection this week:

James Fish, Alex Woolford, Rory Ward, Joe Howard, Alex Day, Dean Adamson, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley

So George Smith moved to a Prem club to play Champ rugby?
It figures I guess...

The Blues website says
Northampton Saints’ George Smith runs out in blue for the first time having been chosen in the engine room, while having settled in during pre-season
but he hasn't played a pre-season game with us.
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Ealing Trailfinders to host Hartpury:

  1. Kyle Whyte
  2. Matt Cornish
  3. George Davis
  4. Matas Jurevicius
  5. Danny Cutmore
  6. Rob Farrar
  7. Jordy Reid
  8. Josh Taylor
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  10. Dan Jones
  11. Tom Collins
  12. Jordan Holgate
  13. Reuben Bird-Tulloch
  14. Angus Kernohan
  15. Tobi Wilson
  16. Mike Willemse
  17. James Kenny
  18. Biyi Alo
  19. Sean Lonsdale
  20. Rayn Smid
  21. Craig Hampson
  22. Craig Willis
  23. Francis Moore
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That's a pretty formidable Ealing squad!
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Doncaster have gone back to their old traditional kit, still predominantly dark blue with a white/red/white hoop across the chest 

So who knows what the problem was. 
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Originally posted by knightandday knightandday wrote:

Doncaster have gone back to their old traditional kit, still predominantly dark blue with a white/red/white hoop across the chest 

So who knows what the problem was. 
The RFU, there's the problem 
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Scottish 1 v 5 Coventry - Coventry should win but I think Scottish are a bogey team for Coventry, so almost went the other way 
Nottingham 5 v 2 Cornish Pirates - Think this could go either way, but Nottingham tend to start strong and then fall away
Doncaster Knights 5 v 2 Ampthill - Knights to win, but Ampthill could surprise Knights if they are off their game
Bedford Blues 5 v 1 Caldy - Should be a high scoring game with Blues going to sleep to let some late Caldy tries in
Cambridge 4 v 1 Chinnor - Could go either way, going with home advantage and now Championship experience and could be an important match at the bottom end of the table
Ealing Trailfinders 5 v 0 Hartpury - virtually all Ealing matches should be 5 - 0

No need to include me in the Prediction league assuming it is running, as I usually end up missing many weeks!

What Ealing should have done in the last few years and what they have done have been two different things. Yes they’ve won the league a couple of times but they’ve been far from infallible in general. I think they will win the league this season but I don’t think it will be as easy for them as you make out. The likes of Donny, Cov and Pirates will fancy their chances of giving them a bloody nose. 
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