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Runitback 
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So is this the way forward, Championship "clubs" to be A league / second team for Premiership clubs. I can see it making financial sense for both parties, but then does a club like Bedford lose its identity?
Presumably Nottingham - Leicester next . . .
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Posted: 25 Jun 2020 at 21:04 |
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Bedford Saints, maybe.
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Bedhampton - Desperate times lead to desperate measures for survival. No need to ring fence the Premiership with moves such as these.
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Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!!
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Leicester has had close ties with many clubs over the years, Nottingham and Bedford have had close ties in the past and at the next level Loughboro' Students, Hinckley and Leicester Lions have "arrangements" with Tigers players coaching and playing.
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I think Blues are going back to the model tigerburnie says
When the league was more semi-pro we were successful having decent young players from the Premiership with money then spent on decent player of our own. |
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Runitback
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Starts to feel a bit pointless when you go down this route . . . and your club just becomes a play thing for a Premiership side . . we all like to see our teams win but! In my opinion Prem and Championship clubs need to be sustainable and if that means smaller squads, then all the better. More players playing more rugby and if you shine in Nat1 or Championship a Prem club will come for you.
But shipping players in and out really does nothing for the Champ Clubs and they will become souless . .. a bit like a certain west country team!!!
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If this is what it's coming to (and it's obviously what PRL and the RFU want), then I'm out.
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When Blues first did this they were allocated certain players for the whole season (effectively their players) and then extra ones on loan when there were injuries, just like all clubs do from time to time.
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Listened to the Lancashire Rugby Podcast last week they had Mick Hogan of Falcons on and I'm pretty sure he describes Prem Clubs using Champ/Nat 1 Clubs as feeders/nurseries for up and coming players. He also said bin the A League and get the Premiership "fringe"players " playing against experienced players in the Championship/Nat 1 to learn their "trade". Talked a lot of sense, IMHO.
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Totally understandable from a financial viewpoint but destroys the little integrity the Championship had remaining. Frankly,more satisfying to watch say a local level 6/7 club.
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Come and watch Moseley. 😁
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Cauliflower ear.
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The Gloucester / Hartbury rationale is gaining momentum
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The Northampton/Bedford move could prove very beneficial but only if the A league is totally abandoned. Prem senior and academy squads will be smallest ever this coming season and they will not let players play on a Saturday for a Champ team if their is an A league match the following Monday. Last season Quins and Irish had to borrow players to have enough for most A league squad matches. For the development of Academy players playing in the current Championship is much better than just meaningless A league matches but the integrity of the Championship clubs will disappear a la Hartpury. Current National One will become the pinnacle of non full time club rugby
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So now it’s Bedford Saints. Before that it was Bedford Sarries and before that Bedford Tigers. How long before it becomes Bedford Ampthill😀
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Hope you are not alluding to the Pirates sir.
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Think the reaction is a little extreme to this news. Nearly all the clubs in the Championship have a deal with local Prem Clubs already..... load players, injured players coming back, season loans etc etc.
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I assumed it was Hartpury. I guess you think of them as Northerners, though!
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West Midlands?
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There isn't much difference to what has happened in the past few years. Some clubs work closely with Premiership clubs, others work with their own developed squads. From what we can see so far of next seasons plans, it's much the same. Pirates, Donny, Jersey, Richmond and Ealing and probably others looking to do what they have always done with Hartpury and Bedford following a similar model to what they have previously done. Maybe different alliances, but similar models. Which is right, which is wrong? Don't know but what's for certain is that each club has retained its own identity and overall the brand of rugby at this level has been excellent whatever the model.
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I did say Bedford would manage to pull something out of the hat. If it works for them then good luck to them - I suspect as alluded to above a certain number of players will be assigned season long and then some loan players as and when needed. The coaching and training could be a good thing for the Blues. The fears that loss of identity may arise is something that the club and fans will have to resolve.
Just don't become a Hartpury.
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