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Blues you seem to worry over Ealing quite a lot ? Just a observation 😂😂
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Ealing is the best resourced side in the league, with the strongest squad and a fabulous facility.
Someone has to be.

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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:


With Sale's parlous state in National 1, I await their need for Sharks.

Having said that it will be interesting to see the Cambridge game against London Scottish who, I believe, fielded a number of loan players last season.

 Surely, loan players must undermine the members of the core squad unless you either don't have a core squad or genuinely don't have injury cover.

For a number read dozens! The LS squad last Friday featured ten Harlequins players. Not sure if they had any loan players from elsewhere.
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Some interesting comments on this here.
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Are there any plans in the public domain? Does the Championship have a proposal of its own? Can I read what the RFU's "Premiership 2" plan actually is anywhere?
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Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

Are there any plans in the public domain? Does the Championship have a proposal of its own? Can I read what the RFU's "Premiership 2" plan actually is anywhere?

Not that I can find, but 2 years ago:

Premiership Rugby has welcomed the vote, at a meeting today of the RFU Council, in favour of the expansion of the Gallagher Premiership to 14 clubs in season 2022-23, subject to meeting the required minimum standards.

The package of measures, which involves a temporary pause on relegation, will help to improve the financial stability and sustainability of professional rugby during the next three seasons following the unprecedented impact of COVID-19 on club finances.

The plan follows a detailed consultation involving stakeholders across the game, including Premiership Rugby and our member clubs, Championship clubs, The RPA, RFU Board and RFU Council.


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A fairly wide-ranging interview on the Beeb with Jon Sharp, Chairman of Cov RFC here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gpv78b
It starts at about eight minutes in, then continues at around 22 (I think, maybe a little further on) minutes after a short break.
Covers a lot of ground around the Prem 2 debacle, the failed Prem clubs, and naturally the Cov club's outlook on the future of the game. Quite enlightening and worth a listen if you can spare the time.
His (paraphrased) quote re. "I wouldn't want to have to wash my mouth out with soap" particularly made me and 'er indoors giggle.
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Whilst there are no actual proposals in writing from the RFU or the Championship Most would agree that the starting point is 13 meaningful home games in a season. 
  • This would mean either a 14 teams league or a 12 team league league with a cup competition.
  • There are no proposals for a continuing Pre/ Championship cup. The problem would be how to fit it into a full Prem Season, mid week games would be difficult for semi pro Championship sides.
  • The Championship Cup has never taken off , clubs rest players and gates are low, the semi and final are almost a foregone conclusion so it just becomes pointless. 
  • The RFU have been unable to get any sponsorship for the League or cup and that is why they have been happy to give it over to the Championship to promote. 
  • The Prem 2 option (Which has not been Officially presented to the league or publicised) will only be attractive to aspirational clubs, so long as they maintain the entry levels into the Premiership. We will see what happens at the end of this season , will the play off go ahead if Ealing win?
  • Franchises will not work each will have to generate a fan base from Zero, unless you are Wasps, but again moving to a new area will again mean new Supporters. 
So finally going back to the start a 14 team league, 13 home games, No Cup would be my preferred option.
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Originally posted by Kimbo Kimbo wrote:

A fairly wide-ranging interview on the Beeb with Jon Sharp, Chairman of Cov RFC here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gpv78b
It starts at about eight minutes in, then continues at around 22 (I think, maybe a little further on) minutes after a short break.
Covers a lot of ground around the Prem 2 debacle, the failed Prem clubs, and naturally the Cov club's outlook on the future of the game. Quite enlightening and worth a listen if you can spare the time.
His (paraphrased) quote re. "I wouldn't want to have to wash my mouth out with soap" particularly made me and 'er indoors giggle.
Great interview. Thanks for sharing.
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