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    Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 21:52
And time the RFU not only acknowledged this but did more to promote it. Rather than hijack the 

Championship 2021-2022 signings and departures thread, where Islander and others have referred to this today, thought I'd start a new thread. And see just what sort of a team Jersey reds could provide from the last 5 or so years. Ok Matt Banana was a little earlier .....

These are ex Reds players who went onto a a higher level of rugby.


15 Tommy Bell  Bath and London Irish
14 Leroy van Dam  Aurillac, France
13 Kuki Ma'Afu Tonga
12 Mike Le Bourgeois Wasps
11 Matt Banahan Bath and England
10 Calum Sheedy Bristol and Wales
9   Kieran Hardy Scarlets and Wales
8   Nick Haining Bristol , Edinburgh and Scotland
7   Gary Graham Falcons and Scotland
6   Guy Thompson  Wasps and Tigers
5   Will Rowlands  Wales
4   Peirce Philips  Worcester
3   Simon Kerrod  Worcester and England
2   Elvis Taione  Tonga
1   Harry Williams Chiefs and England

International players in red

Thats a tidy looking side, and there'd be quality on the bench too, with the likes of Janco Venter of Namibia, Jerry Sexton and Richard Barrington of Saracens.. I'm sure Islander or others can correct me and add a name or two.  CC, you mentioned Brett Herron.....
I'm sure too that most Championship Clubs could field a similar team of former players.  How about yours ?  And my point ?  Just to emphasise how much talent does graduate from a Championship club to the premiership and international teams.. If this sort of graduation to a higher level of playing is maintained, just consider that quite a percentage of those playing in the championship this weekend will be full internationals within four of five years
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I have had a very quick brainstorm, sure I missed some… and I have ignored the high number of DRs (so 100% Blues) who have gone on to International duties and tried to keep the players as recent as possible. Did have to go back further for a couple but they are worthy additions!

5 (1 on the bench) made it from the Blues Academy before it was abolished due to the RFU changing the cup we’d enter.

15 O’Connor - Bristol in England Squad
14 Bassett - Wasps  - England U20, England Squad - Blues Academy
13 Twelvetrees - Gloucester - England & Lions Squad
12 Taylor - Saracens - Scotland - Blues Academy
11 Morris - Harlequins - England U20 - Blues Academy

10 Hooley - USA
9 Price - Edinburgh - Scotland & Lions - Blues Academy

1 Tonga’uiha - Saints - Tonga
2 Harris - Wasps or Clare - Leicester
3 Alexander - Australia
4 Lawes - Saints - England & Lions - Blues Academy
5 Botha - Saracens - England - picked up from Bedford Ath
6 Wells - Leicester
7 Fisher - Saints
8 Fenton-Wells - Bristol

16 Judge - Bath
17 Lindsey - Bristol
18 Horsman - Wales
19 Flanagan - Saracens
20 Neil Cochrane - Edinburgh - Scotland squad
21 Chudley - Worcester - Blues Academy
22 Le Bourgeois - Wasps
23 Atkinson - Gloucester - in England Squad

Travelling Reserves
Edwards - Sale now at Bordeaux Gegles
Tom James - Saints via Knights

Nick Walshe - England U20 coach
Jamie Bain - England U20 Strength and Conditioning Coach


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 2021 at 08:28
Great post Westie. I can't let you get away with listing  two tight heads in the front row so I would offer Jake Woolmore (Bears) or my own personal choice Sam Lockwood (Falcons) who lived in St Ouen and visited us with his family last year. 
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Jake Armstrong Donny,Jersey then Bristol
Tomas Francis Donny, London Scottish then  Exeter and Wales, British Lion
Michael Heaney Donny then Wuss
Tom James, Bedford Donny then Northampton 
Bomber Hislop Donny then Wasps, Scotland
Paul Hill, Donny juniors, Leeds then Northampton and England World Cup
Jack Yeandle Donny then Exeter 
Will Griff John Donny then Sale, Wales
Pete Luc ock Leeds, Donny then Newcastle 
Piers Francis Donny then Northampton and England World Cup
Marc Thomas Leeds, Donny, Harlequins, Wuss
Wian Conradie Donny, Gloucester
Sam Britton Donny to Gloucester


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Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Marc Thomas Jersey Leeds, Donny, Harlequins, Wuss
In the front row for candidates who moved on to greater things we could also add Bodes.
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The Blues:, Another to add at centre:
Duncan Taylor - Blues Academy, Saracens and Scotland

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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Marc Thomas Jersey Leeds, Donny, Harlequins, Wuss
In the front row for candidates who moved on to greater things we could also add Bodes.

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Originally posted by Westcoaster Westcoaster wrote:

And time the RFU not only acknowledged this but did more to promote it. Rather than hijack the 

Championship 2021-2022 signings and departures thread, where Islander and others have referred to this today, thought I'd start a new thread. And see just what sort of a team Jersey reds could provide from the last 5 or so years. Ok Matt Banana was a little earlier .....

These are ex Reds players who went onto a a higher level of rugby.





A good line-up Westcoaster. Selection for Reds' 'graduates' XV especially hard at prop (Lockwood, Barrington and Woolmore at l/h, Williams, Kerrod, Ciaran Parker, Jake Armstrong, Alec Clarey at t/h) and back row (Graham, Haining, Thompson, James Freeman, Matt Rogerson). Can't claim Kerrod as a capped England player, yet, but he was named in a training squad... 

Competition at hooker from Charlie Clare and Nic Dolly, and yes I realise other Champ clubs helped develop these guys too, with Clare playing far more Champ rugby as a Blue than as a Red. Ditto Le Bourgeois.

I feel bad throwing a Jersey legend out of your team, but we can't have Kuki Ma'afu in there as he won his Tonga caps before he came to the Island and retired from pro rugby when he left us. Could supplement the back-line with Scott Van Breda or Tom Howe (Wuss), Brett Herron (Quins) or Will Homer (Scarlets). Some of these names have fared better than others of course, but that's the way of things, however they've all had a crack in the top flight...

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Will Homer is playing for Richmond today. Looks an elusive runner and great acquisition.
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Originally posted by Bedford Bear Bedford Bear wrote:

The Blues:, Another to add at centre:
Duncan Taylor - Blues Academy, Saracens and Scotland

Updated and I have had to drop Atkinson to the bench!


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Thanks Islander I'd forgotten Matt Rogerson, now captain at London Irish.
And didn't Dave Markham go on to play at a higher level in France ?
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Originally posted by Westcoaster Westcoaster wrote:

Thanks Islander I'd forgotten Matt Rogerson, now captain at London Irish.
And didn't Dave Markham go on to play at a higher level in France ?

Dave M went to Rouen, who were actually in the third tier in France at that stage. I believe they were promoted in his last season and think he may now - tho' not 100% certain this is current - be in Hong Kong, working as a fitness trainer & playing for Kowloon RFC
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