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    Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 20:10
I am absolutely perplexed with Eddie Jones he just can't see the way to win the championship....

1 - why is the most prolific wing, fastest in the eara not selected- he is playing for an off form team. Radwan would of tore up the championship also getting so much interest from online fans.
2 - no Will Collier issues in the scrum he ignores when there is the most on form prop proving his worth every week
3 - selection of Bailey with no test experience.... with the number of inexperienced players if surely should of been Ford- guess point is proven now Farnell is injured and Ford will be drafted in. I would think he takes the bench spot behind smith. And whilst Bailey is an amazing talent for future it's just too soon.

I know I am just a fan looking from the outside but am I missing something is he seeing something beyond my mind.

I know i have listed 3 above but it could of been 10 - curry at 8, centres on wings etc 

Any thoughts?



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Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

I am absolutely perplexed with Eddie Jones he just can't see the way to win the championship....

1 - why is the most prolific wing, fastest in the eara not selected- he is playing for an off form team. Radwan would of tore up the championship also getting so much interest from online fans.
2 - no Will Collier issues in the scrum he ignores when there is the most on form prop proving his worth every week
3 - selection of Bailey with no test experience.... with the number of inexperienced players if surely should of been Ford- guess point is proven now Farnell is injured and Ford will be drafted in. I would think he takes the bench spot behind smith. And whilst Bailey is an amazing talent for future it's just too soon.

I know I am just a fan looking from the outside but am I missing something is he seeing something beyond my mind.

I know i have listed 3 above but it could of been 10 - curry at 8, centres on wings etc 

Any thoughts?


My only thought is to not waste time trying to figure out Eddie's selections.
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England and Gloucester wing Jonny May to see specialists over knee injury

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England wing Jonny May will miss the opening two fixtures of the Six Nations with a knee injury and will wait to hear from specialists whether he can play any part in the tournament.

May, 31, did not feature for Gloucester against Perpignan on Saturday.

He will miss England's games against Scotland on 5 February and Italy eight days later, but is not yet ruled out of the Wales game on 26 February.

Disappointing for May, but an opportunity for others to gain test match experience ahead of RWC 2023.
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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by front5 front5 wrote:

I am absolutely perplexed with Eddie Jones he just can't see the way to win the championship....

1 - why is the most prolific wing, fastest in the eara not selected- he is playing for an off form team. Radwan would of tore up the championship also getting so much interest from online fans.
2 - no Will Collier issues in the scrum he ignores when there is the most on form prop proving his worth every week
3 - selection of Bailey with no test experience.... with the number of inexperienced players if surely should of been Ford- guess point is proven now Farnell is injured and Ford will be drafted in. I would think he takes the bench spot behind smith. And whilst Bailey is an amazing talent for future it's just too soon.

I know I am just a fan looking from the outside but am I missing something is he seeing something beyond my mind.

I know i have listed 3 above but it could of been 10 - curry at 8, centres on wings etc 

Any thoughts?


My only thought is to not waste time trying to figure out Eddie's selections.

You're so right WE... altho' at the same time one can't help looking at each squad and scratching one's head. Some interesting thoughts about the latest squad on this week's edition of The Ruck podcast which is produced by the Times
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Originally posted by Steve@Mose Steve@Mose wrote:

Disappointing for May, but an opportunity for others to gain test match experience ahead of RWC 2023.

And I think you have hit the nail on the head there Steve - I think this is all about RWC 2023 - these un-blooded youngsters need to cut their teeth in a serious competition to see how they will perform under pressure etc. etc.
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Not to pick Radwan is a big mistake, he is not the finished article but is unique and will only get better. I would also like to see Will Muir given a chance, great hands, big and with a very unusual running style.

I feel for Collier as his form is outstanding how Sinkler keeps his place I have no idea.
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Well at least the Farrell debate is over for the 6 Nations as he is having an ankle operation and will miss it all.

However, I am perturbed by the clamour amongst the press to parachute Ford into the starting 15 and leave Smith on the bench!
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Well at least the Farrell debate is over for the 6 Nations as he is having an ankle operation and will miss it all.

However, I am perturbed by the clamour amongst the press to parachute Ford into the starting 15 and leave Smith on the bench!

Stuff the press - they're just trying to push people's buttons and stir up indignation amongst the readership.

Whether Smith should start all five matches in the Six Nations is another point.  There is a case for having Ford starting with a natural 12 outside of him, and there is also a need to give the third in line fly half some test match time this year.  Perhaps a Smith/Ford rotation over the main four matches, and third in line fly half coming off the bench in the match against Italy - starting berth to which of Smith/Ford needs to up their game after the Calcutta Cup?

A fit Farrell can go on the summer tour to Australia and put down a claim for being picked in the autumn tests.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Well at least the Farrell debate is over for the 6 Nations as he is having an ankle operation and will miss it all.

However, I am perturbed by the clamour amongst the press to parachute Ford into the starting 15 and leave Smith on the bench!
Ford is the perfect starter and bring on Smith to finish the job, form dictates that above any personal preferences, my personal choice would be for Ford to remain at Leicester for the duration, but that is I guess selfish.
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England suffer fresh blow as Joe Marchant tests positive for Covid

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England's Six Nations preparations have been hit with fresh blows ahead of their Scotland opener on 5 February.

Utility back Joe Marchant has tested positive for Covid which has left him doubtful, while full-back Tommy Freeman is out with a hamstring injury.

Harlequins' Louis Lynagh and Newcastle's Adam Radwan have been called into the squad.
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Scotland v England: Courtney Lawes and Jonny Hill out of game through injury

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Forwards Courtney Lawes and Jonny Hill have been ruled out of England's Six Nations opener against Scotland on Saturday.

Flanker Lawes is recovering from concussion, while lock Hill has a foot injury.

Lawes' absence adds to England's leadership problems with regular captain Owen Farrell out for the Championship.

Prop Joe Marler has returned to training following Covid-19 isolation.
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Team announced tomorrow. Captain? Have seen George, Itoje & Curry all mentioned, don't believe any backs are in the frame...
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Team announced tomorrow. Captain? Have seen George, Itoje & Curry all mentioned, don't believe any backs are in the frame...

Hasn't Itoje been groomed to take on this mantle?
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Team announced tomorrow. Captain? Have seen George, Itoje & Curry all mentioned, don't believe any backs are in the frame...

Hasn't Itoje been groomed to take on this mantle?

at one stage, yes, then Eddie said in his book he still had development to do, then he said after it was published that MO had developed & therefore might be in frame, who knows?

as one tongue-in-cheek tweet (by @roarzz) I read today said:

I think I speak for all rugby fans the world over when I say I can't wait for Eddie Jones to select George Furbank at 10 instead of Marcus Smith


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I dont think Itoje will be made captain, I think Curry will get the job and again he will be the starting 8 which is ridiculous as he is one of the best 7s in the World and we have two world class 8s in the squad!! 

As for Furbank, a strong club player, but I do not see what he brings to the squad  . . players like Lozowski or Malins offer more versatility.

Scotland will be feeling quietly confident as an unstructured game will suit them.
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

I dont think Itoje will be made captain, I think Curry will get the job and again he will be the starting 8 which is ridiculous as he is one of the best 7s in the World and we have two world class 8s in the squad!! 

As for Furbank, a strong club player, but I do not see what he brings to the squad  . . players like Lozowski or Malins offer more versatility.

Scotland will be feeling quietly confident as an unstructured game will suit them.


I agree, Curry likely to be captain but should play 7 - especially with Underhill out.

Dombrant at 8 for me with Simmonds on the bench
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Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him

'all the centres England have to choose from'...

not sure we are quite as well off in the particular position (inside/no12) in question - who else is fit and could play there? I'd like to have seen Atkinson given a go, but Eddie - altho' rating him highly enough to cap him in November - appears reluctant. Slade better at 13 IMHO. Maybe I'm overlooking someone?
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Dan Kelly . . improving all the time . . . I would also like to see Muir given an run on the wing
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him
Tuilagi appears to be made of glass.  With his injury record, relying on him for salvation appears ... unwise.
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