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Camquin 
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 Topic: Promoting the ChampionshipPosted: 23 May 2022 at 18:18 |
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Given that if we wait for the RFU to do something we will be here until doomsday, what useful steps could the clubs take, jointly and severally, to meaningfully increase attendance at the Championship, ideally ones with low cost.
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 18:38 |
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Set up a YouTube channel that you stream all the games to which will allow you to sell the good rugby you see live
I'm sure it's more complicated to do but seems a relatively easy step
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 18:50 |
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Surely a more sustainable solution would be that the championship and National 1 clubs plus other nation league clubs who wish to, move away from the RFU. Take on no more DRs or funding and set up a whole new structure.
Effectively making the premiership a province type league, it would grow local interest promote player development and make clubs self funding. Moving away from a business model which requires funding to survive. The RFU would do everything to stop this including redistribution of funding if they were to lose effectively 2, 3 or 4 of the leagues which are so important to player development
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 18:54 |
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The quickest win would be kids go free across the whole league when with an adult. Okay lose a tenner but gain behind bar, food, sweets etc and developing a sustainable fan base
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 19:38 |
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I don't think it's as easy as we all think to make our own deals. l seem to recall that we are part of the PRL/RFU agreement which includes TV rights and league sponsor which is held by the RFU. The good news is that this is up for renewal at the end of next season.
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 20:36 |
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I actually think that the Championship Club's Podcast is a great step in promoting the Championship at a relatively low cost. I'd hope that the league members could scrape together enough money to ensure that it was weekly.
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 22:12 |
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Surely you have worked out by now that the RFU don't need any player development from outside of the Premiership clubs or Academies? The only clubs that require player development is the Premiership clubs and the RFU fund them a ludicrous amount of money and provisions of Academy rugby in order to have access to roughly 50 players per season to play in Internationals. |
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Posted: 23 May 2022 at 22:38 |
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Yes, and all of that money ensures access to the best English players, who deliver high level results. Like in the last couple of Sux Nations (sic).
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Sorry Richard but by default if the premiership club need player development so do the RFU if there was a blanket refusal of DRs the RFU would act. Look at the current England squads please name a player that has not played in national leagues or championship as a DR
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 07:20 |
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Are there not examples of players leaving academies and ending up in Championship/Nat League clubs?
Player development isn’t just feeding the Prem clubs, it develops players across the board.
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 07:39 |
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Absolutely loads 373 and some even end up in the premiership this season Josh Peter’s for example Northampton Academy came to Blackheath went abroad during COVID came back to Doncaster now signed for Newcastle there will be many more
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 08:27 |
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The BUCS Super Rugby is well promoted, I think the Championship and leagues beliw could take a look how they do it. The net result is lots of the games are attended by a raucous, partisan, beer-swilling crowd.
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 08:58 |
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Lewis Bean - no one's academy, picked up by his regiment in the army having never played the game - two seasons at Moseley in his late 20s ->Northampton -> now Glasgow.
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 11:33 |
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As long as the RFU control the Championship it will continue to wither on the vine.It's not a priority.
A return to a governing body controlled by the clubs(like the old FDR) is the only way for the League to progress.
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Posted: 24 May 2022 at 17:30 |
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Your last point confirms the point I was making. It is the Premiership clubs who need the player development, not the RFU. If the Premiership clubs don't get the players from their Academies or lower leagues, they will just go abroad for them - as we constantly see.
A 'ban' on DR would mean very little to the Premiership clubs - the players may suffer - but for the Premiership club it wouldn't matter a jot. |
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Posted: 26 May 2022 at 19:03 |
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Point taken re clubs not taking DRs forcing Premier clubs to go abroad - however if that was accompanied by a strict limit of say 4 per club of overseas players then Premiership clubs would be forced to develop young players and actually play them. |
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Richard Lowther
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Posted: 26 May 2022 at 19:51 |
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The RFU through the EQP scheme /payment are trying to tilt the balance in favour of English qualified players but who counts as overseas? Welsh, Irish, Scottish players? Employment law does not allow discrimination based on nationality and it opens up a can of worms. South Africans for example have the legal right to work based upon EU legislation currently enshrined in UK law. Until that right is restricted or removed then they are treated the same as a UK passport holder. One of the arguments in favour of ring fencing is that it would give clubs the opportunity to blood in youngsters as the clubs would be safe from relegation. It is a false argument as the clubs are rewarded financially based on their league placings and qualification to Europe, so they still feel under pressure to buy in "proven" players than use "unproven" youngsters. |
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Posted: 30 May 2022 at 22:24 |
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Let's discuss the elephant in the room.
Unless Championship clubs have a ground that meets the Premiership criteria next season, then 22/23 will be another dead rubber and that will not promote the league at all, never mind the clubs! So what are Ealing, Doncaster, Pirates etc doing to ensure they can't be blocked again? |
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Posted: 31 May 2022 at 01:17 |
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22/23 has already been call
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Posted: 31 May 2022 at 07:36 |
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who called 22/23 a dead season ON, and when? I know there was originally going to be a moratorium on relegation, but that was lined up on basis that a 14th club would arrive in the Prem at end of 21/22, which as we know hasn't happened. That leaves a space as things stand, with potential scope for would-be Prem sides to improve their facilities to required level, as well as some noise from the Prem that the minimum standards might (appreciate there are few if any guarantees here) be lowered slightly...
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