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islander
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Posted: 17 Apr 2023 at 21:52 |
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Grauniad article just gone up this evening. It's not really about Wasps/Wuss but as it covers Prem and Nat 1 (and in a smaller way Nat 2) as well as Champ, I'm posting here...
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Big Eddie
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In no other major sport can such contemptuous chicanery by the supposed governing body be so brazenly carried out. The RFU‘s senior management and the Executive Council which will rubber stamp their master’s shenanigans should be removed
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''The future isn't what it used to be''
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Breakdown
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From the last paragraph of the Guardian story tonight:
"In a further twist, however, a last‑ditch bid has been launched behind the scenes to save the Championship’s bottom side, currently London Scottish, from relegation this season. As well as potentially creating a 14-team league in 2023‑24, it would also potentially mean two clubs, rather than three, being relegated from National One this season. With one of those affected National One sides, Esher, due to play their final fixture against the league leaders Rams on Saturday, the RFU Council will debate the motion on Friday."
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Broken down. Beyond repair.
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Fly Half
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I'm merely a semi interested observer but all this is truely shambolic and simply couldnt / wouldnt happen in any other sport. As an by the way, my old boys team in Yorks, used to play other junior clubs in the area, fielding two sides at home and two away against the same opposition. This was still happening until around 20 yrs ago. Many of these clubs now only field one senior side, a few regularly field two sides - usually if the secoind team can play at home - whilst no more than a small handful, regularly field three sides. I simply cant see many of these clubs existing in five yrs time, particularly as the playing age seems to be ioncreasing each yr - vets are now the first team ! |
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Rabbie Burns
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Although the timing sucks it’s almost close to making sense a 14 team championship makes sense 26 meaningful matches
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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corporalcarrot
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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WILD BOAR
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Looks like a reasonable solution to me and I'm sure a well known Esher attendee will be prosposing it.
I agree with 26 meaningful games for the Championship (although the Wasps inclusion still stinks) and ditch the waste of time Cup in favour of a bit more funding! |
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tigerburnie
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I still don't see how Wasps can be ready to play in time, I expect them to bail out about a week before the season kicks off.
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Camquin
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I was thinking that FDR and NCA should insist that, as a phoenix entity, their home ground is Coventry. And neither body could possibly approve a ground move for the three years. I am sure FDR and NCA could quickly pass a rule that if any club arranges a match other than at their designated ground without permission from the league and approval of the visiting team, they forfeit the match, suffer a five point penalty and are responsible for the full cost of the away side attending the fixture. Seems perfectly fair.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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FHLH
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Fair and reasonable
Throw away Wasps, relegate bottom Champ team, promote National 1, add 2 from Bulgaria Can't find RFU constitution but I'm sure it says "the promotion of rugby in England"
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Halliford
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I'm sure the well-known Esher attendee will do the decent thing and declare a conflict of interest!
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workerbee
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i Think you are forgetting that the RFU want to play a Premiership / Championship cup next season with the first six weeks of the season playing the 6 pool games and starting a 14 team Championship on October running into May (for one year only) this will mean Championship clubs playing a minimum of 32 games. So much for health and safety for the players unless you can afford a big squad. And remember even after the world cup is over the international players will be required to have a number of rest weeks which will restrict loan players to the Campionship.
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Camquin
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Which is why they want a 13 team championship, as 13 + 11 = 24. When they thought they were going to have 14 Premiership teams, and frankly I see no reason not to have 14 Premiership teams, except that it would bankrupt 11 of them, no belay that, I still see no reason not to have 14 premiership teams, they wanted a 14- team Championship to make 28. Rugby is run for the benefit of the Premiership.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Halliford
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From what I heard from Conor O'Shea about this Cup, it is area-based with Premiership, Championship and BUCS teams all coming together under regional names. A bit like the Hundred which has been such a success!
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Robb
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Jersey, Guernsey and Douglas (IOM) would be very upset with you!
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islander
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Not to mention Cornwall...
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CJB1
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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FHLH
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Bulgaria really are very good 👍
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Tyke
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That's because they aren't run by the RFU!
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If only Webb-Ellis hadn't given them the ball back!
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Have they got a rich Uncle ?
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