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    Posted: Yesterday at 10:01
Obviously no announcements yet, but it's looking like there'll be a hard frost overnight Friday in Stortford, with temperatures remaining low on Saturday morning.

How about elsewhere?
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The Lions just posted this, saying weather dependant will mean an early pitch inspection before Plymouth set out I guess.

With this weather forecast I would be surprised if the game goes ahead
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My prediction is that only 2 games will survive Rosslyn Park for sure and I believe Dings are also plastic but it’s whether Sedge can get out of the frozen North
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[QUOTE=Rabbie Burns]My prediction is that only 2 games will survive Rosslyn Park for sure and I believe Dings are also plastic but it’s whether Sedge can get out of the frozen North[/QUOTE
An artificial pitch is not an absolute guarantee of playability in icy conditions though. 
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Cambridge are covering their pitch for the game against England U20s. If your match is postponed and you can get to Cambridge there should be rugby.
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

My prediction is that only 2 games will survive Rosslyn Park for sure and I believe Dings are also plastic but it’s whether Sedge can get out of the frozen North

You are right as Dings do play on an artifical pitch. 

I also think most games across Nat 1 and Nat 2 will be postponed by this time tomorrow if not due to be played on artificial surfaces. I'd say it's doubtful that Ampthill will get their already rearranged Champ fixture vs Hartpury on either.

Bracknell (Level 5) moved their home game vs Jersey to nearby Maidenhead RFC last weekend (artificial pitch) at pretty late notice. I'd hope National League clubs could take a leaf out of their book if able to, but may be less keen to due to the clear losses in normal hospitality and matchday takings that would incur.


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Lions v Plymouth off
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Originally posted by Nat1 Nat1 wrote:

Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

My prediction is that only 2 games will survive Rosslyn Park for sure and I believe Dings are also plastic but it’s whether Sedge can get out of the frozen North

You are right as Dings do play on an artifical pitch. 

I also think most games across Nat 1 and Nat 2 will be postponed by this time tomorrow if not due to be played on artificial surfaces. I'd say it's doubtful that Ampthill will get their already rearranged Champ fixture vs Hartpury on either.

Bracknell (Level 5) moved their home game vs Jersey to nearby Maidenhead RFC last weekend (artificial pitch) at pretty late notice. I'd hope National League clubs could take a leaf out of their book if able to, but may be less keen to due to the clear losses in normal hospitality and matchday takings that would incur.

We were very grateful for the 'can-do' approach of both Bracknell and Maidenhead, working to find a solution to what could have been a massive financial cost if a team's flights operate as scheduled but the game couldn't be played. The prospect of the move was set up on Thurs PM but there was an agreement to allow Bracknell to delay final decision until mid-morning on Saturday when the Jersey flight landed at Southampton.

Maidenhead were very accommodating, including setting up a live-stream and delaying their 2nd XV game by quarter of an hour while our game finished.

Regional 1 SC sent a directive out this week saying that clubs must make all steps possible to ensure a game is played at the second time of asking, including - if necessary - moving it to the away team's home ground if that is passed fit. Not aware of a similar directive for N1/N2.

Happily we aren't travelling this w/e - CS Stags are flying to the Island and Saturday looks chilly (7c) but ok...
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The Mowden-Richmond game has been postponed until February 1st due to a frozen pitch 


This isn’t a surprise because it’s currently -2°C and the next two nights are going to be subzero, with Saturday’s temperatures only just above freezing for a couple of hours and into negative figures by the time the game would be in its second half.


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I was party to a discussion back in the 1970's about the subject of games being cancelled due to a frozen pitch. Is the ground actually any harder than the beginning of the season after a dry spell in September. Of course we don't mind running about in warm weather, but is there any more actual danger of injury was the conversation. The conclusion was we didn't want to play on a freezing cold day and adjourned to the bar, but there was no science to support the decision, it just seemed like a good idea at the time.
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I’d have thought it was pretty obvious. Today’s players are athletes. When it freezes the ground becomes rutted and serious injury can occur. 

Most of the country had been subjected to sub zero temperatures all week and it would make the game a lottery but over riding that would be the danger of serious injury.

It is forecast to warm up considerably after the weekend so my view would be to call games off if there are any doubts at all.

ps Does Halliford have any news from Hersham?
Temperatures don’t look great with subzero temperatures every night thus far and forecast down to minus 4 on Friday night.



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Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

I’d have thought it was pretty obvious. Today’s players are athletes. When it freezes the ground becomes rutted and serious injury can occur. 


agree RM2 - I think TB's discussion, albeit recalled tongue-in-cheek, should probably stay in the 1970s
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We discussed TB point at length last year during an away trip and we came to the conclusion that the grounds may be equally as hard in September as during frost/ice. There has normally been lots of work over the summer and there is a lot more grass and probably less or no ruts. Not every club is fortunate enough to have full time groundsman so repair work and upkeep may be less during the season and depending on lighting training and playing may be happening on the same pitch which again reduces recovery time for the ground. It is a while since I have seen a seriously rutted pitch in N1 as from speaking to people most clubs have a team of volunteers who work tirelessly to keep their pitches in the best possible shape

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Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

I’d have thought it was pretty obvious. Today’s players are athletes. When it freezes the ground becomes rutted and serious injury can occur. 

Most of the country had been subjected to sub zero temperatures all week and it would make the game a lottery but over riding that would be the danger of serious injury.

It is forecast to warm up considerably after the weekend so my view would be to call games off if there are any doubts at all.

ps Does Halliford have any news from Hersham?
Temperatures don’t look great with subzero temperatures every night thus far and forecast down to minus 4 on Friday night.


Low temperatures last night and tonight in Hersham but sun during the day and no wind. There is a pitch inspection tomorrow morning but I have heard nothing today.
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Originally posted by Rothman2 Rothman2 wrote:

I’d have thought it was pretty obvious. Today’s players are athletes. When it freezes the ground becomes rutted and serious injury can occur. 

Most of the country had been subjected to sub zero temperatures all week and it would make the game a lottery but over riding that would be the danger of serious injury.

It is forecast to warm up considerably after the weekend so my view would be to call games off if there are any doubts at all.

ps Does Halliford have any news from Hersham?
Temperatures don’t look great with subzero temperatures every night thus far and forecast down to minus 4 on Friday night.


Low temperatures last night and tonight in Hersham but sun during the day and no wind. There is a pitch inspection tomorrow morning but I have heard nothing today.

Just had an update, pitch was fine for training last night. We are inspecting at 3 pm today.
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Pitch inspection at Bishops Stortford at 2.30.
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looking at the Met Office site, the overall picture suggests it's one of those weekends where if the pitch isn't playable on Friday afternoon, 24hrs prior to KO, there's little prospect of it being any better the next day...
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Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

We discussed TB point at length last year during an away trip and we came to the conclusion that the grounds may be equally as hard in September as during frost/ice. There has normally been lots of work over the summer and there is a lot more grass and probably less or no ruts. Not every club is fortunate enough to have full time groundsman so repair work and upkeep may be less during the season and depending on lighting training and playing may be happening on the same pitch which again reduces recovery time for the ground. It is a while since I have seen a seriously rutted pitch in N1 as from speaking to people most clubs have a team of volunteers who work tirelessly to keep their pitches in the best possible shape

When researching last week's programme, I found a game between London Welsh and Old Alleynians at Dulwich in October 1921 which was the only senior game in London that afternoon, because the pitches at Richmond, Blackheath, Twickenham and Honor Oak (home of Guy's Hospital) were too hard, dry and bare following a heatwave.
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