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The Blues ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4856 |
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The Blues top try scorer had to leave before half time due to the Ealing pitch injuring him, wouldn’t have made a difference to the result but still his leg doesn’t look good.
https://twitter.com/deanoadamson/status/1119864564143796225?s=21 Edited by The Blues - 22 Apr 2019 at 15:59 |
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Stalwart ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 2146 |
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Pirates fullback Kyle Moyle also sustained a serious knee injury at Ealing - but can it be definitively said the pitch is to blame?
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Trailfinder ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2017 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 407 |
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I saw that too, looks pretty nasty. I suspect the very hot weather on Sat was a significant contributor.
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1660 |
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In two matches played on artificial surfaces this season we lost seven players to injury, two of which made no further contribution to the season.
Personally, I believe the only positive that has come out of the RFU's ridiculousy harsh funding revisions for clubs at level 2 and below is the cut in funding for further artificial surface pitches. |
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RobC ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 2018 Location: Coventry Status: Offline Points: 67 |
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I may be wrong but I seem to remember reading that the RFU funded 3G pitches were not the greatest quality.
There doesn't, however, seem to be any complaints about the pitches at Saracens and Newcastle. If Cov go down the artificial route I hope due research is carried out as to the best playing surface. |
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marigold ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 2019 Location: Eltham Status: Offline Points: 430 |
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To be fair any money spent on the playing surface at Coventry will be welcome. It is sadly by far the worst in the Championship.
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RobC ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 2018 Location: Coventry Status: Offline Points: 67 |
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Yes, we've had that pointed out several times already. Hopefully things will be improved for next season. |
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EverOptimistic ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 488 |
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There are very many complaints about the Saracens, Newcastle and Worcester pitches, with photos similar to the above. Some players refuse to play on them.
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Eel ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 1459 |
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If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room
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The Blues ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4856 |
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How else did it happen... a boot from a player, shaving his legs whilst on the pitch? Adamson said it on his twitter account and had to leave the pitch before half time. Not sure it is something he would voluntarily do, when he is in a battle against Hutler for the league top try scorer.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1533 |
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I've noticed from my team playing on 3 separate 4G pitches there seems to be proportionately more stoppages and injuries on 4G than with grass. Plus more players complained about calf pains afterwards. Honestly, I think they are not a good idea.
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KnightsBoy ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 2010 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 2795 |
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Ok for training on
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tulip ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Location: W Yorks Status: Offline Points: 2208 |
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I would like to hear more from players. Saracens Cardiff to name a couple do not seem to have complaints.
Do you have to get the better class of 4G pitch and pay more to get less injuries. |
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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1659 |
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There is no such thing as 4G
Official classification is 3G. Anything else is just marketing BS |
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JonDee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 25 May 2007 Location: Nottingam Status: Offline Points: 1395 |
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a little bit of advertising but a useful article on 3g 4g etc https://www.mylocalpitch.com/blog/2g-3g-4g-know-playing-surface
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tulip ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 2012 Location: W Yorks Status: Offline Points: 2208 |
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I think from reading that article JonDee there is a 4g pitch although not officially accredited
It hasn't got rubber crumbling so maybe that is what causes injuries. |
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EverOptimistic ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2011 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 488 |
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Text from 2018 article in Irish Times - interesting " ailIn August, Munster’s new 4G pitch surface at
Musgrave Park was laid, the conversion from natural grass to plastic complete
and ready for the visits of London Irish and Exeter Chiefs for two pre-season
friendly matches.Munster followed trends at Glasgow Warriors and
Cardiff Blues, who both play home games on the synthetic surface, while
Leinster have played competitively on their plastic in Donnybrook.
Munster’s first match on the surface arrived two
months after Scarlets backrow John Barclay ruptured an Achilles’ tendon at
Scotstoun, and fullback Johnny McNicholl called for artificial pitches to be
outlawed. The following day Wasps flanker Jack Willis, who had just been called
into the England squad, ruptured ligaments in his right knee on Saracens’
artificial pitch. The Premiership now has three clubs who use the
artificial surface, Saracens, Newcastle and Worcester. Gloucester intended
joining them this season, but after taking advice from their players, the club
is spending on a surface that will be a hybrid of grass and artificial grass
fibres. The injuries may be perceived to be part of the game of rugby, tough luck and coincidental. But the most recent Premiership study bears out the belief that plastic pitches are more dangerous and cause more injuries than grass. It also begs the question why, from a player-welfare perspective, are they becoming more rather than less common. Synthetic pitches The RFU crunched the numbers on grass and synthetic
pitches in Premiership rugby, and came up with a report after the 2016-17
season. It said that for that season 608 injuries were
recorded on grass, 170 on artificial surfaces. With just three pitches the
exposure to plastic was less, but returned injury rates of 129.1 per 1,000
hours compared to the grass rate of 89.6 per 1,000 hours, the total hours representing
25 matches. The average severity for match injuries on grass was 32 days,
compared with 37 days for artificial turf. As stated in the official report: “The overall
burden of injuries on natural grass was 2,481 per 1,000 days compared with
4,740 per 1,000 days on artificial turf, a staggering difference.” Also article about Sarries pitch (in a dubious paper, but relevant to the discussion IMO |
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1873 |
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That is a nasty friction burn !. Not sure he needed to stop playing but that is his choice. I have never seen or heard of an Ealing player ever coming off because of a severe graze. This isover 4 years on the 3G pitch. Grass pitches this time of the year go like concrete and the same injuries occur , especially on the sevens circuits.
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Westcoaster ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 1332 |
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I don't know enough about artificial pitches to comment but my son plays a senior level of hockey, where artificial pitches have been the norm for many years. He often gets a nasty graze from a tumble but says that it is the older sand based pitches which are an issue. Falling on a sandy, gritty surface is never going to be fun. The best hockey surfaces seem to be water based , e.g. London 2012 and since, and I don't think the falls are as bad. Makes me wonder whether top sports e.g. professional rugby and hockey ever compare notes ....?
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Come on Jersey........
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oneagainstthehead ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Location: West London Status: Offline Points: 725 |
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A water soaked artificial pitch clearly benefits hockey, providing a slick, fast and consistent surface in a sport where heavy falls are a rarity. These conditions would be good for rugby were it not for the elephant in the room - playing with a permanently wet ball. |
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