14th Premiership place

I'm getting the first vote in for Pirates.

Seriously do we need another London team? And yeah yeah where the money is and all that....

Edited by castleparknight - 31 Jul 2020 at 13:03

Ealing will go for it as I think that's what their owner wants and fair play to him.

The other 2 will I think look at what's on the table if it is offered , both are successful Business men who have looked at the figures in the past and said no if they don't add up to what they are willing to pay.

In both cases it is not just the players to be recruited but grounds and infrastructure to be developed and in Pirates case if it comes before the new stadium is developed I think it will be no .

Greg wrote: [QUOTE=Saturnate] Region Population in '000's Population % Teams 2019/20 % Teams 2020/21 % SE 18,142 32% 3 25% 2 17% West 5,625 10% 4 33% 4 33% Midlands 17,006 30% 4 33% 4 33% North 15,514 28% 1 8% 2 17% Why is East Anglia not a separate entity? To simply 'lump it in' with Midlands is lazy accountancy. This clearly demonstrates why East Anglia needs better representation in the development of rugby.  We all know that the RFU love Yorkshire (well, Leeds in particular) but Anglia deserves an equitable slice of the national cake in order to bring on its own youngsters.

Eastern Counties and Essex are in London Division.

Richard Lowther wrote: Greg wrote: [QUOTE=Saturnate] Region Population in '000's Population % Teams 2019/20 % Teams 2020/21 % SE 18,142 32% 3 25% 2 17% West 5,625 10% 4 33% 4 33% Midlands 17,006 30% 4 33% 4 33% North 15,514 28% 1 8% 2 17% Why is East Anglia not a separate entity? To simply 'lump it in' with Midlands is lazy accountancy. This clearly demonstrates why East Anglia needs better representation in the development of rugby.  We all know that the RFU love Yorkshire (well, Leeds in particular) but Anglia deserves an equitable slice of the national cake in order to bring on its own youngsters. If you take the RFU Divisional structure Anglia is part of the Midlands. If you split each Divisional area into two, Anglia remains part of the East Midlands area, in the same way Yorkshire would fall into the North East area with Durham and Northumberland.  Its only when you divide into 16ths that you can consider Anglia to be separate.  In the past Northampton have claimed they are a East of England side, to differentiate them from the obviously based East Midlands side in Leicester.

Most of Yorkshire is in the Midlands in my book. Surely the real or true North starts at the River Tees!

Edited by corporalcarrot - 01 Aug 2020 at 09:20

castleparknight wrote: CorporalCarrot your geography is notoriously bad. Enough said on that. On a slightly different slant - doesn’t Saracens still need to evidence their books at the end of next season to show they have financially operated for two years within the PRL defined rules for entry into the Prem? As such will they achieve promotion next season (based on the predictions being made on here)? Sorry for the slight change in topic, and if I missed it being stated elsewhere

mmm so 2nd place may go up in that case

castleparknight wrote: CorporalCarrot your geography is notoriously bad. Enough said on that. On a slightly different slant - doesn’t Saracens still need to evidence their books at the end of next season to show they have financially operated for two years within the PRL defined rules for entry into the Prem? As such will they achieve promotion next season (based on the predictions being made on here)? Sorry for the slight change in topic, and if I missed it being stated elsewhere

This was a rumour circulating when their relegation was announced, I seem to recall this was said not to be the case?

Additionally, if Sarries had to be in Championship for 2 years, there is no way CG (an ex CEO at Saracens) would be advocating ring-fencing at the end of this season.

Of course everything may be blown out of the water if there is no rugby below the Premiership this season.

At Present no side in the Championship can afford to go up you cannot have a backer just pumping money into the club must be able to stand on your own 2 feet. I think the report has also mentioned that at the end of 4 years the books of premier sides need to be looked at to ensure they are sustainable . From the figures I have looked at at Companies house if it was not for the CVC monies only 1 premier side made a profit. 4 years will give them a chance to get houses in order but some have large holes in there Balance sheets that it may take longer