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    Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 13:13

Pitch size is more important than a flat pitch in my view. 

A full size playing field can be 144 metres - 100m in play (22-28-22-28) and 44m in goal (2*22) plus 70m wide - a playing area of just over 2 acres (about 30 houses).

Google earth will reveal all but I'm certain that Twickenham doesn't have a full size in goal area.
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They don't. I know clubs who have ones bigger than Twickenham 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2024 at 13:34
Cambridge has just replaced two slightly undersized pitches, the one used by the women and thirds and one hardly used, with one "full-size" pitch.

This means they have a longer pitch, and it can be used as an alternative to the main pitch in case of a medical emergency meaning play needs to be moved.

However, while each have decent in-goals, neither are the full 22m.

The 2023 revision of the laws introduced minimum sizes for pitches. Previously, those have been in the playing conditions for the various leagues.

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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:


Pitch size is more important than a flat pitch in my view. 

A full size playing field can be 144 metres - 100m in play (22-28-22-28) and 44m in goal (2*22) plus 70m wide - a playing area of just over 2 acres (about 30 houses).

Google earth will reveal all but I'm certain that Twickenham doesn't have a full size in goal area.

I wouldn’t like to say FHLHWinkWinkLOLLOL

However at Park Lane, pitch size is  it’s 100 x 70 with the in goal areas both at 12 metres.

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Blues have been shrinking as the RFU don't like the advertising boards.

Apparently the Premiership is demanding that soft padding is added.
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Blues have been shrinking as the RFU don't like the advertising boards.

Apparently the Premiership is demanding that soft padding is added.

I had not noticed any shrinkage.
The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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If you put soft padding at Bath then the dead ball line would be infront of the posts
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Sorry but I may have have one too many. Why are level 2 and 3 clubs expected to comply with the minimum standards for participation at level 2 when there are clubs at level 1 that clearly do not qualify. It is an absolute disgrace. I know that the decisions are made by the PRL and the RFU have little or no say because of monetary matters but when are the council are going to grow some bolloc*cks and say this not in the best interest of the game as a whole, the game that they are mandated to run.
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Sorry for going of topic but to correct ST our in goal area is 13 meters, I know because I set it out.Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2024 at 02:59
I had a look via Google Earth and found most photos were taken out of season during a drought.
However, I found that most clubs and national stadia have 70m wide, 100m in play and 10m in goal - which is a shame as I believe a full size 22m in goal would bring a new dimension to the game (and needing to read the laws relating to in goal play) 
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Esher used to have full 22 metre goal areas, and still have the space for them. We were asked to reduce them when we were at Level 2. We don’t have soft padding boards, though.

We used to enjoy long kick chases into the deep goal areas!
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Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Esher used to have full 22 metre goal areas, and still have the space for them. We were asked to reduce them when we were at Level 2. We don’t have soft padding boards, though.

We used to enjoy long kick chases into the deep goal areas!

RFU or players request? 
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Apologies I undersold us by a metre in each in goal.😂😂😂😂

All the best 

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We have room for more than 12 (or 13) metres, but I believe 8 to 15 to be optimum. Less than that, and the defender kicking is under undue pressure, more than that is...well a bit silly, though certainly an added dimension.

Does the Law stipulate that the two in-goals have to be the same size?

I am old enough to remember the Game going metric, but my friend, SP legend George Hinds, still referred to the 25 yard line. "It's 22 metres now, George," I told him.

"Like a bet?" he asked. He had measured and marked out the pitch! It wasn't even rectangular, not quite. There was a few yards (or metres) of taper at one end, to squeeze two pitches into the area now occupied by the current full-sized one + stand + terracing + car parking, etc.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SKalpy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 2024 at 23:45
Bloody hell Dave, that's why I was always running into touch on the bottom pitch.Embarrassed I wish you had told me that 40 years ago.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 02:54
Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Halliford Halliford wrote:

Esher used to have full 22 metre goal areas, and still have the space for them. We were asked to reduce them when we were at Level 2. We don’t have soft padding boards, though.

We used to enjoy long kick chases into the deep goal areas!

RFU or players request? 

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Interestingly there is no criteria for a sloping pitch 
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This made me download the IRB Laws App.

22m is the maximum size of an in goal area.
6m is the minimum size.

And yes, no reference to flatness.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 15:23
Originally posted by Paul10 Paul10 wrote:

This made me download the IRB Laws App.

22m is the maximum size of an in goal area.
6m is the minimum size.

And yes, no reference to flatness.

True, look at Sevenoaks. One of their in goal areas is directly up a hill.
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So if the minimum in-goal area is 6m then can I suggest that most Premiership grounds DO NOT meet that minimum standard. Certainly all those playing in football grounds do not and neither do Bath. Is there a consequence? Of course not! 
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