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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5330 |
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As the topic is locked I'll post here.
I understand that the top 4 Premiership clubs are to be excluded from the cup as they are too strong. It will also bring the number of teams down to 16 which makes 4 pools of 4 and allows the logic of the 2nd Round to be simpler. If I'm totally honest, I can't wait for Cambridge to get back to the National Leagues where the main topic of conversation is rugby rather than money and RFU incompetence. I don't believe that Cambridge got anything useful out of the 23/24 Cup other than a stack of costs. So I'm not upset at creating a hole in our fixture list - or am I? There's a saying that fruit filters well: "Banana off. Then keep bananaing off. Banana off until you come up to a gate with a sign saying." You Can’t Banana Off Past Here”. Climb over the gate, dream the impossible dream, and keep bananaing off forever." Edited by FHLH - 04 Aug 2024 at 09:51 |
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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It's an interesting idea excluding the top four clubs as they are too strong. Can you imagine Manchester City, Arsnal (can't include the e as it apparently makes a rude word!), Liverpool and Aston Villa being banned from the FA Cup because they are too strong? I'm with you entirely regarding Championship clubs winning "promotion" to the National League so they can get back to enjoying the game.
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Jon Newcombe in todays Rugby Paper says the Prem Cup will involve all Prem Teams and the Champ clubs except Chinnor and Cambridge ("bottom two, too weak"). So 20 clubs not 22 as last year.
That should give 5 pools x 4 with the 2 Prem and 2 Champ clubs in each as said elsewhere. Better balance? But will Champ clubs get any share of the Prem home games? All to be confirmed at Champ AGM this Tuesday, apparently.
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5330 |
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Having faced the trauma of our first season, we have recruited.
All this for just 11 Home games. Who'd be a Treasurer?
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Online Points: 693 |
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My local club are in a league with chinnor 3s.
Hope we're not playing them in these fallow weeks.
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TAS63 ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 13 Apr 2009 Location: Bourne Status: Offline Points: 178 |
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What a sh*t decision..... Unless someone tells me both clubs "wanted" this???
And waiting until now to make it. It's not like everyone didn't know months ago. More RFU not fit for purpose - putting it nicely
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5330 |
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Quid pro quo for lowering MSC? If "too weak", then surely, "too strong" logic applies as well. ![]() |
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fatbear ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2013 Location: Thame Status: Offline Points: 2787 |
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Chinnor's website confirms they and Cambridge are not in the cup. |
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fatbear ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2013 Location: Thame Status: Offline Points: 2787 |
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It means a lot of blank weekends for both clubs, unless they keep playing each other !
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Jester10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Aug 2012 Location: Reading Status: Offline Points: 1741 |
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God awful decision for two clubs who are being judged without any evidence. If they're both strong enough to be in the Champ. then they should play in the competition. Secretly happy that my club stayed in the National Leagues, at least I'll get to see rugby home and away most weeks.
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Enjoying life!
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 11258 |
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Hopefully Chinnor and Cambridge will go on to finish in the top half of the Championship to smear egg over everyone's faces. I don't know if we have the firepower to do that, but you never know. But, assuming Ritchie finds some friendlies to go along with the other friendlies that are laughably called a league, we will have some rugby with nothing riding on it. |
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*Stalwart ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 2022 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 329 |
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Unbelievable decision. What are these people on?
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2483 |
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That’s a very impressive and comprehensive update for Chinnor supporters. Not sure why they need a CEO and COO though.
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2615 |
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I would love an update like that for Ealing. I hear rumor and take a peek at the ground now and then, but there is nothing concrete release.
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Big Eddie ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Status: Offline Points: 5043 |
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I am staggered by this decision unless of course someone tells me that both Cambridge and Chinnor asked to be excluded from the Premiership Cup competition.
Both clubs won promotion to the Championship and are now fully fledged Championship clubs. I think it is against any sense of fairness for these two clubs to be discriminated against in this shoddy and shocking manner. I hope that the other clubs in the Championship support them and refuse to ratify this injustice. I read Simon Vickers message and update to Chinnor's members and a few matters were reminiscent of Caldy's summer ahead of their first Championship campaign. Firstly the surprise that the supposed circa £150k to be provided by the RFU was a mirage as some £40k+ had to go straight back out to pay for insurance and another £60k had to be spent on medical facilities......taken together with the increased cost of travel etc doesn't leave much left to help fund all the ground improvements that Chinnor need to undertake. However, after reading Chinnor's update I did get the sense that perhaps the RFU were being of more assistance in guiding Chinnor's pre season readiness than they were when Caldy went through the process. In August 2022 and 48 hrs before their first preseason game against Premiership Sale Sharks, Caldy were informed that unless they built a ramp up to the changing room & medical room (so a stretcher could be more easily transported up the three steps into the facility) the game would need to be cancelled. Detailed plans, which due to the position and topography of walkways and standing areas, needed to be a far more complex and significant structure than 'a ramp' suggested were quickly drawn up and submitted to the RFU for approval.......my understanding was that no prompt response was received from the RFU but somehow Caldy managed the build and installation a few hours before the game kicked off and some 2,500 spectators saw an enthralling evening's entertainment. There was a contrast between the fulltime Sale Sharks side who arrived with their coaches, physios, analysts, nutritionists etc some 2 or 3 hours before the early evening mid week kick off and the Caldy squad that scrambled to leave work and navigate rush hour traffic to arrive shortly before the appointed hour. Therein lies the difference !
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2483 |
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When Northampton Saints spent their season in the Championship their “support team” took one look at the Pirates’ away changing room and determined that their squad would instead get changed in their hotel before being bussed to the ground.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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Mainly large gin & tonics I believe. Paid for by others naturally.
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5330 |
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They clearly forgot what rugby is all about
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Online Points: 693 |
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Rugby has a fine tradition of visiting teams thinking your club/pitch/changing room isn't good enough.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1532 |
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But it's still a common courtesy to use the facilities that the home club provide for you. It reminds me that in football a few years ago, when hazelnutnal played against non-league Sutton, many suggested they snub Surtons changing room and bus it in like Saints. Thankfully hazelnutnal Wenger was a man of honour and said no to that. I think the Premiership snobs are very quickly forgetting where they came from.
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