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Se7en ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Not given Status: Offline Points: 494 |
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I came across this disciplinary matter from the Ampthill v Cambridge game, has anyone else ever seen a ball boy interfere with play before, and get pushed over for their troubles? Bizarre really, but to be fair I can imagine the frustration that the Cambridge hooker felt. Certainly an unusual one!
Perhaps matches at this level should be supported with ball boys from both clubs taking part on match day, for more parity. It isn't something I've ever thought about before.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1528 |
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Reminds me of that time when that Chelsea footballer manhandled and kicked at that Swansea ballboy.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Online Points: 4455 |
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Thinking that myself when I read it - I believe he was also banned |
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Offline Points: 688 |
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Yes.
Eden Hazard was banned for 3 games apparently. And that ball boy is now a multi millionaire.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7503 |
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“To be fair” Mr 7, your conclusion about “frustration” when an adult has physically interacted with an 11-y-o as a result of losing his rag is “certainly an unusual one”. And your idea about introducing home & away ball-boys as a result of an isolated incident is equally “unusual”.
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Se7en ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Not given Status: Offline Points: 494 |
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And very righteous of you too, islander.
With regards to my suggestion of sharing ball boy duties between clubs at matches, I had hoped that this would be taken as the tongue in cheek idea that it was intended, given how ludicrous it is! Sadly not, it seems. Oh, and it's not 'Mr 7'. The name's Se7en...Mrs Se7en
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carlos fandango ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jun 2011 Location: Hertford Status: Offline Points: 890 |
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It would be interesting to know if the ball boys had been instructed to do that. Either way, not on.
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Greg ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 30 Jan 2020 Location: Norfolk Status: Offline Points: 110 |
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For those of us who are uninformed, what happened?
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Paul10 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 2023 Location: Milton Keynes Status: Offline Points: 688 |
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Penalty kicked to touch. Cambridge Hooker pushed ball boy over. Ball boy cried. Hooker banned.
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5325 |
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I've looked at this as a player and a father, in both cases I'm embarrassed
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 6375 |
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Ideally the hooker's ire should have been focussed on the person, likely outside of the field of play, that told the kid to do it.
However, in the heat of the moment... Not condoning any actions btw.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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And quite right too. The fact that someone thinks it is being righteous of a fellow poster to say that grown men shouldn't assault children I personally find quite incredible.
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HookerPaul ![]() Academy player ![]() Joined: 13 May 2023 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Not condoning Ben Brownlies actions here, we should expect mischievous behaviour and sometimes a degree of petulance from 11 year old boys, (traits common with a few hookers i used to know), but...ballboys/girls interfering with play is not within the spirit of the game. I see that Cambridge have sent the little imp a gift voucher. Isn't that rewarding bad behaviour?
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5325 |
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I hope his Dad had a few words with him, not congratulatory
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7503 |
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No, it's apologising for bad behaviour. The adult player who's been banned, and some of the (presumably) adult posters on here, need to face up to what's right and wrong, rather than making excuses...
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HookerPaul ![]() Academy player ![]() Joined: 13 May 2023 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 26 |
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Islander. Two wrongs don't make a right. The little boy was naughty, Ben Brownlie was wrong and quite rightly was punished. The little boy has had a reward. What will he learn from that?
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Se7en ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Not given Status: Offline Points: 494 |
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Unless I have missed something, I haven't seen anyone making excuses for what the Cambridge hooker did or condoing his actions, moreover the majority of posters have actually considered the bigger picture and looked at the incident from both sides.
The fact of the matter is that the whole saga could have been avoided had the ball boy just done what he was there to do in the first place, and nothing else. The previous poster who said that they had considered the matter both as a father and as a player, concluding that he felt embarrased in both instances, has hit the nail on the head I would say.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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For me you handle bad behaviour of an adult and an eleven year-old child differently. From what I gather the child was assaulted by the adult who has rightly been punished. Giving the child a voucher as compensation for the upset caused by the assault is fine as long as it is explained to him that his behaviour was also wrong.
If the ball boy was an adult I would have a different opinion.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7503 |
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Totally W-E - someone above said the 11-y-o had been 'naughty' - that's what kids of that age do, which of us wasn't naughty when we were 11? To view the behaviour of an adult who will be 30 in a couple of months through the same prism is ridiculous...
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Thunderbird ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2013 Location: East Anglia Status: Offline Points: 171 |
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Some one should have word with whoever told the lad to do it in the first place.
I can assure you all this is not uncommon. Not epidemic levels In my opinion u11 is just too young, trying to keep a game flowing when two of the ball boys decide to nip off for a burger or go to the toilet together with out telling any one. I in no way condone what the player did. He was rightly punished. The ball boy must have been told to do it , it not like it’s seen on TV Over my to many years in the technical area. I have seen. 1. The ball deliberately thrown on the wet floor. 2. Deliberately handled to prevent a quick throw in. 3. Swapped with a smooth ball at many off our line outs. 4. Only the opponents / home team ball collected. |
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