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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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I'm getting the first vote in for Pirates.
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4450 |
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There doesn't need to be a 14th club, the odd number would give 2 natural weeks off for every club.
It could then be utilised to add an extra club who might do an Exeter and prove itself sustainable with correct facilities. I.e. A ring-fenced Premiership in all but name with the carrot of a place at the top table to buy-off the minions |
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3003 |
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Seriously do we need another London team? And yeah yeah where the money is and all that....
I would love Donny to get the place but also see the case for Pirates but heart over mind for me
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Saturnate ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Location: Depends Status: Offline Points: 718 |
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Its interesting to look at representation in the Premiership based on regional populations, and what it would seem to indicate is that the South East and North are under represented, and the West is substantially over represented (table below based on Wikipedia population figures, and saying that the East of England falls into the Midlands category).
Always remember, lies, damned lies and statistics!
OK those tables haven't come out, wait a couple of minutes and I'll type them in
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Saturnate ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Location: Depends Status: Offline Points: 718 |
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Region Population in '000's Population % Teams 2019/20 % Teams 2020/21 % SE 18,142 32% 3 25% 2 17% West 5,625 10% 4 33% 4 33% Midlands 17,006 30% 4 33% 4 33% North 15,514 28% 1 8% 2 17%
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Pappashanga ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2014 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 2167 |
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Rugby is relatively more popular in the West.
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pappashanga
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JonDee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 25 May 2007 Location: Nottingam Status: Offline Points: 1395 |
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Ealing will go for it as I think that's what their owner wants and fair play to him.
The other 2 will I think look at what's on the table if it is offered , both are successful Business men who have looked at the figures in the past and said no if they don't add up to what they are willing to pay. In both cases it is not just the players to be recruited but grounds and infrastructure to be developed and in Pirates case if it comes before the new stadium is developed I think it will be no . |
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[QUOTE=Saturnate]
Region Population in '000's Population % Teams 2019/20 % Teams 2020/21 % SE 18,142 32% 3 25% 2 17% West 5,625 10% 4 33% 4 33% Midlands 17,006 30% 4 33% 4 33% North 15,514 28% 1 8% 2 17% We all know that the RFU love Yorkshire (well, Leeds in particular) but Anglia deserves an equitable slice of the national cake in order to bring on its own youngsters.
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Richard Lowther ![]() Coaching staff ![]() ![]() Moderator Joined: 19 May 2007 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6573 |
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If you take the RFU Divisional structure Anglia is part of the Midlands. If you split each Divisional area into two, Anglia remains part of the East Midlands area, in the same way Yorkshire would fall into the North East area with Durham and Northumberland. Its only when you divide into 16ths that you can consider Anglia to be separate. In the past Northampton have claimed they are a East of England side, to differentiate them from the obviously based East Midlands side in Leicester. |
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PiffPaff ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Oct 2014 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 1126 |
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Pappashanga Edited by PiffPaff - 31 Jul 2020 at 18:58 |
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Crouch, Bind, Tweet!
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 11249 |
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Eastern Counties and Essex are in London Division.
Eastern Counties includes Cambridgeshire which is not in East Anglia being West of the Devil's Dyke.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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The Joy of (Level) 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Location: Devon Status: Offline Points: 327 |
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It has to be decided on the pitch doesn’t it?
Next season, if it happens, is arguably not the time that the decision should be made, but if all sides are given sufficient notice that 21/22 will be “normal” then perhaps the end of that season will be. Who will pass the ground criteria restrictions though?
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TJOS
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corporalcarrot ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Location: St Brelade Status: Offline Points: 4724 |
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Edited by corporalcarrot - 01 Aug 2020 at 09:20 |
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3003 |
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CorporalCarrot your geography is notoriously bad. Enough said on that.
On a slightly different slant - doesn’t Saracens still need to evidence their books at the end of next season to show they have financially operated for two years within the PRL defined rules for entry into the Prem? As such will they achieve promotion next season (based on the predictions being made on here)? Sorry for the slight change in topic, and if I missed it being stated elsewhere
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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JonDee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 25 May 2007 Location: Nottingam Status: Offline Points: 1395 |
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mmm so 2nd place may go up in that case ![]() ![]() |
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billesleyexile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Jun 2013 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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I thought that one had been clarified as either no longer the case, or duff information (i.e. was never the case to start with and just an internet rumour)?
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keep the faith
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4450 |
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This was a rumour circulating when their relegation was announced, I seem to recall this was said not to be the case? Additionally, if Sarries had to be in Championship for 2 years, there is no way CG (an ex CEO at Saracens) would be advocating ring-fencing at the end of this season. Of course everything may be blown out of the water if there is no rugby below the Premiership this season. |
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RAID ON
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castleparknight ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Doncaster Status: Offline Points: 3003 |
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Cheers chaps
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Mickyboy ![]() First XV squad ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 2019 Location: Bedford Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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At Present no side in the Championship can afford to go up you cannot have a backer just pumping money into the club must be able to stand on your own 2 feet. I think the report has also mentioned that at the end of 4 years the books of premier sides need to be looked at to ensure they are sustainable . From the figures I have looked at at Companies house if it was not for the CVC monies only 1 premier side made a profit. 4 years will give them a chance to get houses in order but some have large holes in there Balance sheets that it may take longer
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No 7 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Oct 2011 Location: LONDON Status: Offline Points: 1872 |
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None of the Premiership `stand on their own two feet` They are subsidised by the RFU, CVC and a whole host of `backers` who do pump money into their chosen clubs.
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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