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 Topic: Another Guardian articlePosted: 26 Apr 2023 at 14:04 |
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Scrumtime
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 14:21 |
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He's got several good points, but until clubs get together to call an EGM the powers that be will keep killing the game and picking up a fat salary and pension to boot
The CCU whatever they were called were all hot air for about 2 weeks in Jan, then nothing. It will be late in about a months time and that I'm sorry to say will be a major nail in the club rugby coffin and once its gone its gone, it ain't coming back
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Halliford
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 14:27 |
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An excellent series of articles by Robert Kitson, the problem is the RFU bigwigs don’t read the Guardian!
We are all members of the RFU butvour main voice is through our CB reps. They have to represent the whole of their CB and, unfortunately, the views expressed by National League clubs are not always supported by the lower level Clubs. My Club would love to be part of a playing pyramid which sees players move up and down between Clubs and Leagues to their, and their Club’s betterment but many smaller Clubs just see us as opposition and want our fringe players to be their stars with nothing in return. Getting holistic opinions in CBs can be like herding cats!
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 14:56 |
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No my point is your man from Rams has hit it on the head.
The RFU are not fit for purpose, full stop! So changes need to be made, not just let them carry on doing whatever they want and bully every club into going along with what they say. The clubs in the UK have got to have a voice and do this. Next season there will be 100's of players stopping playing with this tackle law, on the back of that , clubs will go under or merge, that is a fact and a head on crash the RFU are walking into, eyes wide open. They have been told, they have been warned and what do they do, put on a few roadshows, where it was rammed home they are correct, they did not even do one in Cornwall, shows what they think of that part of the world! The group of "Merry men and woman" at HQ are trying to flex to show they have more power than the clubs. If we are not happy with a Government we get a chance to reelect, well the time has come for the member clubs to get rid of Sweeney and his jolly men with Paula Carter and elect a governing body that will look after the game of Rugby Football Union for all, not just the few!
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When you consider the despicable and immoral way the RFU have run rugby in the last year or so and the fact that bar the odd article in the mainstream media there is absolutely no challenge to their leadership it seems that they can continue to carry on exactly as they please.
To be honest I see the only hope is that the class action over brain injuries succeeds and bankrupts the RFU forcing a new governing body to be formed because nothing else will force change. And even if this is likely to be years away.
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 17:19 |
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Not sure how many you need
But I’m sure someone on here will know Call an EGM and get rid of the lot Sweeney downwards There are so many clubs upset I would not have thought it would be that hard to pull together If they get away with the changes this time next year there will be less clubs to call an EGM Edited by Scrumtime - 26 Apr 2023 at 17:21 |
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Posted: 26 Apr 2023 at 17:46 |
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The difficult part is getting to contact all the clubs. And getting them to be interested. If you want to help, drop me a PM.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Thank you Jester : thoughts please? I’m sure we can get the ball rolling on this site But the bottom line is Sweeney and his merry troops have got to go and go now! Edited by Scrumtime - 27 Apr 2023 at 07:26 |
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The RFU has a database of all clubs and contacts that is easily searchable. Compiling a database of 1000+ in a very short time frame would be quite simple. https://www.englandrugby.com/find-rugby
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At the risk of being "that guy", I've said before on here. The Board and the Council are two distinct things. The Board header by Mr Sweeney are paid employees of the RFU so asking for the "head" of anyone from Sweeney down just isn't going to happen. The RFU as a Business and as a Governing Body needs to function with these professionals in place or find someone to replace those in post otherwise it will become a massive void.
Its these same professionals that advise the Council on matters such as the Tackle height and so on. Council members are elected by their Constituent Body to serve on council along with I think 4 or 5 independent Council Members. So who do you want to remove? The paid staff who if "sacked" may be paid off handsomely or the Council Members who serve a 3 year term before having to be re-elected or step down for someone else.
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Crouch, Bind, Tweet!
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Richard Lowther
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Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 14:40 |
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I'm still unclear what any 'rebellion' would solve.
The tackle high issue is here to stay. The game has a legal duty to do something to reduce known injuries. Reorganisation of the leagues will never suit everyone. The only issue I can see which could be changed is the RFU dealings with the Premiership cartel to ensure a more equitable distribution of money (and power).
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The tackle height in the community game will not solve concussion
Sir only has 1 set of eyes and in most games no team of 3 let alone a tmo. How many times do we see sir following a pass and missing the late upright hit of a tackler smashing a 10 or in what I reckon is the greatest number on concussions in lower level games impacts with the head in a ruck situation. If they want to stop head impacts they need to clean up the tackle area so less bodies on the ground first and foremost, I am not saying bring back raking players on the ground but stop players going off their feet unless tackler/tackled and start it at the top of the game
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Posted: 27 Apr 2023 at 18:21 |
I agree with your sentiments PP, BUT, who are these paid employees working for? I would suggest that they work for us, the clubs who make up the Union. There has been some extremely poor examples of “business” management by some of OUR employees which, I hope, at review time are properly considered (assuming of course this takes place). The amount of our money that goes to the Premiership, whilst next to b—ger all goes to the community game is disgraceful.
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I do hope that everyone on here that is expressing criticism of the RFU has expressed the same view to their Council Member, normally a CB Rep. clubs come together only for the AGM, Council Members represent their Clubs between this AGMs so ensure that they are aware of your dissatisfaction and mandate them to vote the way you want them to on the issues that matter.
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Definitely!
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We have and were fobbed off re the tackle, most CB members are so far removed from todays game and the needs of clubs we might as well be in the 1990's, which is where most are still living. |
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Posted: 28 Apr 2023 at 07:36 |
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Can you go on the RFU website and see who the council members are and which areas/clubs they represent
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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Posted: 28 Apr 2023 at 07:46 |
Currently the About the RFU page from their Main Menu returns a Page Not Found. There is still a post which lists some of the key figures dating back from 2021. - https://www.englandrugby.com/news/article/what-is-the-rfu-council Also (a couple of years out of date mind) - https://www.englandrugby.com/dxdam/6f/6fcd1c4b-960d-47c8-ad17-b93aa5ba4fed/Council%20Members%20Biographies%202021-22%20(Jan%20update).pdf
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Posted: 28 Apr 2023 at 08:21 |
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Imagine if that sport with a round ball was run as bad as Rugby.
MPs would have them before a select committee. Maybe time to write to our MPs and put the RFU under outside scrutiny?
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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