Racism in Rugby - Event Date: 21 Oct 2022

This is a topic I really got annoyed with when Luther Burrell said "Racism is rife in Rugby Union"

Edited by tulip - 21 Oct 2022 at 08:04

There's racism in every walk of life. It's insidious, and ingrained, to the extent that often offenders don't even realise. To think it doesn't exist in RU would be naive in the extreme.

Richard Lowther wrote: tulip wrote: This is a topic I really got annoyed with when Luther Burrell said "Racism is rife in Rugby Union" I've been manager of Junior teams at Sandal for many years and we have had many different ethnic  young lads play for us .Probably against Huddersfield when Burrell was playing there.  But there was never in probably my 10 years tenure any racism whatsoever  My son played 12 years in 1st team and never any racism  Why would he say that  Rugby Union is racis t   He has obviously experienced it that's why he is saying it exists.  Well we shall see what the RFU come out with having interviewed 100 players  I can see it perhaps coming from touch line but not from fellow players.  I’m called “tulip” at club by various people.Thick useless little  Irish pill ock. It’s banter  I’m not offended They are my mates

Edited by tulip - 21 Oct 2022 at 12:20

Sid James wrote: Richard Lowther wrote: tulip wrote: This is a topic I really got annoyed with when Luther Burrell said "Racism is rife in Rugby Union" I've been manager of Junior teams at Sandal for many years and we have had many different ethnic  young lads play for us .Probably against Huddersfield when Burrell was playing there.  But there was never in probably my 10 years tenure any racism whatsoever  My son played 12 years in 1st team and never any racism  Why would he say that  Rugby Union is racis t   He has obviously experienced it that's why he is saying it exists.  I agree Richard but this is one man's experience. Are we all guilty, no. Is this any reason for a major enquiry, no. I watch our MJ section on a Sunday morning , which regularly involves a couple of hundred players, parents and coaches and, I have never witnessed any gathering of that size that is more inclusive.

Edited by Richard Lowther - 21 Oct 2022 at 13:35

tulip wrote: The point I  and Sid were trying to make Richard was that Burrell's accusation that Racism is rife in rugby union is wrong. He probably has been called something and I hope he names names. Put up or shut up  Have I been racially abused by being called an Irish Pilloc k No friendly banter among mates

Edited by Richard Lowther - 21 Oct 2022 at 14:02

Your experience is irrelevant.

Richard Lowther wrote: [QUOTE=tulip]I haven't missed the point Richard. I have said that in my experience I have not experienced racism in rugby and that I didn't think it was RIFE  I'm sure it has happened and it needs looking into. But I don't think it is rife

I totally agree All I was trying to do was find other opions which Sid expressed

Edited by tulip - 21 Oct 2022 at 14:29

I do not accept that it is rife in Rugby. Unless he is referring to crowds. I have played and been involved in Rugby for 42 years having started playing aged 12 at an inner London comprehensive on the the ironically named White City estate' Shepherds Bush. I can not recall one incident at school. We have a social media group and I will ask if anyone experienced racism in Rugby. I am sure that there were incidents but not directly associated with Rugby.

It’s all about the terms, because times have changed. Language used when I was younger is no longer acceptable you only need to look at TV to see the changing issues, Benny Hill, Steptoe, Alf Garnet all massive audience pullers back in the day but now derided on the altar of political correctness. Is there racism in rugby definitely how bad is it who knows and we probably never will can another quango determine it definitely not as even now most people do not realise what they say in banter another sees it as offensive