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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2615 |
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Apparently, Ealing, Jersey, and Cov have applied to play in the challenge cup.
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1533 |
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Watch the protectionists close ranks again
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Kimbo ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 31 May 2007 Location: 'incleh Status: Offline Points: 6377 |
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It'll never fly.
Would be nice though.
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Whistle watcher ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 17 Jun 2019 Location: Midlands Status: Offline Points: 98 |
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Key word that, "apparently". Be interesting if true though.
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 11258 |
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Applying is one thing, Europe might decide to bringing three teams in from the minor nations to help develop rugby there. What am I saying, they will take whichever teams generate most money this season.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2615 |
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I would also assume that the Pro D2 teams might cry foul. They are probably, in general, higher standard than the Championship clubs.
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Trailfinder ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2017 Location: London Status: Online Points: 407 |
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My initial thought when I read this was ‘rugby league’?!
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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 11258 |
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Gerg_861 They might, but with a 16 team league, so 30 matches plus play-offs, I am not sure that they could take on the extra games. Whereas, the Championship sides look to have 27 games. Which is not to say that fitting in at least four extra matches for three teams would be easy, as it disrupts the season for everyone else. But it would really make the Premiership look silly if their grounds are good enough for the Championship, for the Premiership Cup, and especially for Europe, but not for the Premiership. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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Cue Lawrence Dallaglio wittering on about how Wasps are too big a club not to be in the Challenge Cup.
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Bedford Bear ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Location: Johannesburg Status: Offline Points: 254 |
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Personally I'd love to see any of the three Championship teams play in Johannesburg at the Ellis Park Stadium v the Lions with a capacity 62,567 crowd. Where the funding for airfares and hotels come from is a mystery to me with some Premiership teams complaining this year of the costs involved
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5331 |
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With a party of 50 players and support staff it's about £1,000 per head return assuming flights £650 (economy, but with a 11 hour flight and larger bodies will be more, premium economy £1,300, Business £1,900 First £4,500), hotels £350 (depending on occupancy - assumed double). With ≥ £50,000 at risk, I wonder what % of gate is payable to the away team? 50% occupancy of Ellis Park would yield c. £1.0m (Argentina tickets £10-£50) so why are Premiership clubs moaning? More than 50 going, all in First Class? Even then it would be hard to not break even!
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Robb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1533 |
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The Saffas would have a huge culture shock in the return leg!
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2615 |
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If only someone knew a good travel agency....
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Whistle watcher ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 17 Jun 2019 Location: Midlands Status: Offline Points: 98 |
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That made me laugh.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4455 |
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First you say you wonder what %age of gate the away side take, then you base you predictions on 50%. I seriously doubt the away side would get that. |
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RAID ON
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Big Eddie ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Status: Offline Points: 5043 |
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Imagine if Caldy could somehow reach those dizzy heights.......playing at the Paton Field Stadium would be the biggest culture shock of all
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''The future isn't what it used to be''
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4455 |
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Or Ampthill? |
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RAID ON
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FHLH ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Cambridge Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 5331 |
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The 50% is the anticipated paid occupancy at the game - about 30,000 in a 62,000 seater stadium for this level of rugby. In SA that may be a conservative estimate
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Trailfinder ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2017 Location: London Status: Online Points: 407 |
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I gather from Twitter there is a meeting between the Champ clubs and the RFU today. Any Intel on the agenda?
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gerg_861 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Jun 2017 Location: Ealing Status: Offline Points: 2615 |
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Just saw a statement feom Jersey that they have not applied to the Challenge Cup, which is at odds with previous reports. I am sure someone on here could comment.
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