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    Posted: 10 Mar 2020 at 19:21
So it appears highly likely over the next couple of weeks a rugby player is going to be infected, so presumably his/her club cannot complete their fixtures . . so what happens to that league and promotion / relegation?

What if Newcastle Falcons lose a player to the virus cannot complete games, do they still go up or is the league left intact? Do YC get a reprieve? Do Sarries get a reprieve?

I hope someone is planning for all the eventualities!!! I doubt the RFU are!
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

So it appears highly likely over the next couple of weeks a rugby player is going to be infected, so presumably his/her club cannot complete their fixtures . . so what happens to that league and promotion / relegation?

What if Newcastle Falcons lose a player to the virus cannot complete games, do they still go up or is the league left intact? Do YC get a reprieve? Do Sarries get a reprieve?

I hope someone is planning for all the eventualities!!! I doubt the RFU are!


An over the top reaction, I would say.

Scenario that a player contracts corona virus (not impossible) - all his teammates need to self-isolate for 14 days, cancelling a maximimum of 2 games - not exactly difficult to catch up afterwards assuming the game needs to be played (don't forget there have been seasons where some games aren't played because of weather)
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When all this first started in China  a few weeks ago I though 'here we go again' - Y2K, mad cow, foot and mouth, sars, bird flu etc etc. However it seems that this one isn't like that - it's the real thing. It appears that it's just the start  - and it's going to get really serious. They may be talking now about cancelling big events - over 1000 people  - but I've got a feeling that it's inevitable that within 3, 4 or 5 weeks all sporting events, certainly those involving significant travel, will be cancelled.  I just can't see any other outcome, but I may be wrong. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the season is concluded either in the UK or here in France. 
What happens then is anyone's guess.
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I would guess a scrum is about as perfect a transmission method as possible, 16 players (19 with SH's and Ref) with heads in close proximity breathing heavily. Usually there is sharing of water bottles as well.

Dont think there is much danger to the crowd as they are rarely stood cheek to jowl and often have plenty of wind swirling around them (bit like the back 3)
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we've asked our league administrator ( level 6) . as it stands its business as usual. he expects the rfu to send something nation-wide sooner rather than later . If anyone tests positive for the actual virus then the club will be asked to suspend playing until the all clear. But at this stage it will be on a case by case basis. however this is subject to change....
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This is much ado about nothing really.
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I can't see any league finishing its fixtures this season. This is an issue for clubs, but irrelevant within the scope of things.

4 weeks ago Italy had barely heard of Covid-19. Take a look at the webcams of St Marks Sq, the Rialto Bridge, The Colosseum etc etc  to see the impact it is having.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

So it appears highly likely over the next couple of weeks a rugby player is going to be infected, so presumably his/her club cannot complete their fixtures . . so what happens to that league and promotion / relegation?

What if Newcastle Falcons lose a player to the virus cannot complete games, do they still go up or is the league left intact? Do YC get a reprieve? Do Sarries get a reprieve?

I hope someone is planning for all the eventualities!!! I doubt the RFU are!


An over the top reaction, I would say.

Scenario that a player contracts corona virus (not impossible) - all his teammates need to self-isolate for 14 days, cancelling a maximimum of 2 games - not exactly difficult to catch up afterwards assuming the game needs to be played (don't forget there have been seasons where some games aren't played because of weather)


Not as simple as that I'm afraid - players contract it over a longer period then as a team is "clear" someone else gets it in their club or indeed the opposition have an outbreak.

Mhazelnutille may!!!! escape provide teams can qualify?
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That was M A R S E I L L E I typed!
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All the statistics and probability lead to the conclusion that rugby players will be affected. This could definitely disrupt one or all leagues, I just wonder how that scenario has been considered , or is everybody just crossing their fingers?? Look at the Scottish Women’s team.
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

All the statistics and probability lead to the conclusion that rugby players will be affected. This could definitely disrupt one or all leagues, I just wonder how that scenario has been considered , or is everybody just crossing their fingers?? Look at the Scottish Women’s team.


Expect the RFU to issue some woolly guidance in June/July
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the guidance will probably come with the results of the ACR just in time for 22/23 season.....
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

This is much ado about nothing really.

Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

So it appears highly likely over the next couple of weeks a rugby player is going to be infected, so presumably his/her club cannot complete their fixtures . . so what happens to that league and promotion / relegation?

What if Newcastle Falcons lose a player to the virus cannot complete games, do they still go up or is the league left intact? Do YC get a reprieve? Do Sarries get a reprieve?

I hope someone is planning for all the eventualities!!! I doubt the RFU are!
 

I hope that when guidance comes it steers a mid-range course between over-reaction (see exhibit B above) and denial (exhibit A above) - neither are very sensible IMHO


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Originally posted by Bigmal Bigmal wrote:

That was M A R S E I L L E I typed!

Can't help but wonder if this  automatic removal of specific words isn't a bit of a waste of time 🤔

It also leads me to wonder who exactly decides which words are not for printing 😲

All very reminiscent of an episode of Round the Horne having a dig at BBC censors (Series 1 Episode 4) which, funnily enough, along with some Goons and who knows what other stuff, the snowflakes at the BBC have now seen fit to deem unfit for listening - happily, I still have the cassette's which I play regularly on my way to games in my very old car 🤣😂🤣
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I think the potential for promotion and relegation is fascinating but  correct  me if I am wrong but didn't the RFU have the equivalent of the pools panel to conclude the Foot and Mouth season?
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This morning the FFR issued a directive cancelling all rugby activities over here indefinitely. All other sports have done the same - at all levels. Macron made a 30 minute speech to the nation last night - a much more serious tone than Johnson yesterday. It's inevitable that it's going to happen over there as well. It's the end of the season over here - no champions, promotion or relegation, and it will be the same over there as well. I just don't think there'll be the possibility of finishing things later - this could be around for 4 or 5 months at least.
As I've said before, this is really serious stuff 
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Are you saying therefore the RFU will allow Yorkshire Carnegie to stay in the Championship despite the appalling lies at the end of last season and their performance this season?  And for a second year deny Richmond the possibility of being in the Championship-that will be interesting!!
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In France that's exactly what would happen. It'll be up to the RFU in England but I think that there's a good possibility of that outcome.
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Breaking News; Tomorrow`s game between Macclesfield v. Wirral in North Premier is postponed due to a Wirral player & a parent self isolating
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