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    Posted: 07 May 2022 at 12:34
I recall one of the objections made about Old Deer Park, was that the clubhouse, and hence the changing rooms, were not pitch side.

Edinburgh, and their guests, change in Murrayfield and walk across the car park.

If this is good enough for Wasps while playing European rugby, why would it not be acceptable in the Premiership.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MikeGC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 May 2022 at 19:58
Is it because it’s in a different country ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 May 2022 at 11:07
Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Is it because it’s in a different country ?


And a different competition, hence different rules
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 09:03
Excellent article by Nick Cain in rugby paper, talking about league system in France  . . just makes sense!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 09:33
For those of us without access, what did he say.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Runitback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 11:02
He talks about the current mis matches in premiership . .  where there is no jeopardy and contrasts to the growing strength of French rugby where even level 4 will be professional with excellent broadcast deals and strict financial management.

He then contrasts the crowd figures at the Caldy Sale game where promotion was to play for!!

Well worth a visit to your local newsagent or an  online subscription:-)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 11:52
So far, that is old news.
Did he propose a solution?

France has a bigger population than England and a weaker Football Association, meaning more TV money for Rugby. And French communes have more money to support local sport than do English councils.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kempstonblue Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 12:01
Does France have a well supported Rugby League competition?

Both codes in England have very well supported top flights Super League and Premiership.

I wonder how it would be if we just had one game called Rugby not two.
The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 12:16
Two of the Super League clubs are French.
Aside from that, it has a semi-pro league, almost entirely in the South.

My project to build a time machine is behind schedule. But we can catch up once it is complete. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thunderbird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 12:17
I have a library card and with it I can get the rugby paper for free, by registering with press reader.
That is with Suffolk library Service.Tongue 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FlyingRuck Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 May 2022 at 15:02
Can we not just accept that the French have a better handle on the game of Rugby Union in their country than we do in ours?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WEvans Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2022 at 17:12
Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Is it because it’s in a different country ?


And a different competition, hence different rules

Yes but other than because it is a different competition in a different country why can't it be the same Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2022 at 11:07
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by MikeGC MikeGC wrote:

Is it because it’s in a different country ?


And a different competition, hence different rules


Yes but other than because it is a different competition in a different country why can't it be the same Big smile


Because the RFU would have to do the licensing if it were less than 10000 - at that level there is a public body that is responsible for applying H&S criteria.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stoatgobbler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2022 at 14:17
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Two of the Super League clubs are French.
Aside from that, it has a semi-pro league, almost entirely in the South.

My project to build a time machine is behind schedule. But we can catch up once it is complete. 


The plan, or hope, is that French RL will get a TV and money boost from having 2 teams in Super League.

However, one of the teams is rooted to the foot of the table and could well be in danger of relegation after just 1 season. How this will affect TV and monies remains to be seen.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thunderbird Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2022 at 15:28
Can anyone shed light on the fact that the "Minimum ground Standards" are NOT publicly available, seems very odd and not particularly helpful if you want promotion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Robb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2022 at 15:32
Unless it's lodged with the Department for Media and Sport (where you could FOI it), it's stuck hidden away by the coven of the old boys' club to ensure no upstarts try anything
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Stoatgobbler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2022 at 16:03
I imagine it's a 'fluid' document, by which I mean it's made up as they go along.
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