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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1659 |
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Coleman gets 4 week's for his 3rd red card in 3 consecutive matches against Sarries, all for high shots, and Marler get 6 for sledging. The game has lost sight of what is important
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cheshire exile ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2482 |
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Four weeks of Marler’s six are suspended and , if the stories are right, it went well beyond “sledging”.
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CJB1 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Moseley Joined: 25 May 2007 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 1900 |
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Marler has form for this kind of thing. Perhaps he was lucky to be treated this leniently.
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1659 |
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I'd far rather someone tried hurting my feeling than my brain
Edited by backrowb - 31 Dec 2022 at 08:53 |
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1660 |
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Agreed brb, Physical abuse must be treated more seriously than some verbals. Edited by Sid James - 31 Dec 2022 at 17:19 |
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All Knwoing All Seeing
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kingsheathlad ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Location: Alcester Status: Offline Points: 3297 |
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Surely if it was a homaphobic comment it can't be swept under the carpet, otherwise where will lead it to imo.
Edited by kingsheathlad - 01 Jan 2023 at 10:18 |
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Cauliflower ear.
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Halliford ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Online Points: 4214 |
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How does the old proverb go? “Sticks and stones May break my bones but words will never hurt me.” Sadly less true these days.
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1660 |
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Exactly my point. If Hennan had had the self discipline to front up to Marler rather than attack him, he would have made Marler look like the embarrassing idiot he is. I note Marler was wearing 'tights' during the match. Was this in preparation for a future career with other 'C' list nobodies in pantomime as the villain?
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greenpower ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 25 Oct 2012 Location: north yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 3327 |
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more likley to appear on strictly c--t dancing
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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As far as I can see absolutely no one anywhere has suggested it was a homophobic comment.
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7503 |
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The 'what was said?' uncertainty cleared up by Telegraph today...
Audio from the incident in Tuesday's match between Harlequins and Bristol has been released on social media following Marler's ban by the Rugby Football Union. In the exchange prior to a scrum before the end of the first half, Marler can be heard saying to Heenan: "I'm clearly not your brother, am I? There's no way I'm from the same mother as you. Your mum's a f***** wh***." Marler's initial comment is met with no reaction from Heenan, before the prop repeats: "Your mum's a wh***". Following the second remark a scrap broke out between the two packs of forwards. Heenan was penalised as a result of the fight by referee Karl Dickson, who did not hear Marler's comments but insisted to Heenan and the Bristol captain, Steven Luatua, that Marler would be punished retrospectively if the comment was picked up over the various broadcast microphones. Heenan could then be heard over Dickson's microphone saying: "Karl, my mum's in hospital with cancer". Edited by islander - 01 Jan 2023 at 11:37 |
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kingsheathlad ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Location: Alcester Status: Offline Points: 3297 |
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Apologies for my inference above. Now that what he said is out in the public domain, a shocking thing to have said.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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It is indeed shocking but I would suspect not uncommon. It is reported that prior to this Heenan referred to Marler as being mad which some might think equally shocking given Marler's publicly admitted mental health issues. What will be interesting is whether we see a raft of suspensions for similar incidents as I suspect it will be far to much to hope that those behaving like children actually grow up.
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kingsheathlad ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jan 2010 Location: Alcester Status: Offline Points: 3297 |
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It is sad when things like this are said in any sport, as banter or to wind up opponents.
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Raider999 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4455 |
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I cannot believe Marler got away with just 2 weeks ban.
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Greg ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 30 Jan 2020 Location: Norfolk Status: Offline Points: 110 |
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Marler needs professional help.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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Marler has gone public with his mental health issues and has received help. Possibly time to cut him a little slack. He did something stupid and has been punished but he is far from the only one in the game (or more noticeably amongst those commenting on his recent behaviour) who it could be argued would also benefit from professional help.
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Steve@Mose ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2799 |
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Is there any report/evidence about Heenan making this comment? Marler made no reference to any such comments in his submission to the RFU.
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SK 88 ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Sep 2011 Location: Leicester Status: Offline Points: 588 |
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Heenan said "you're better than that brother", in reference to Marler kicking him in the previous ruck.
RE:Coleman earlier in the thread one of those red cards was rescinded on appeal, so it is actually 2 red cards in 2 seasons. Not a great record by any stretch but not as bad as portrayed.
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WEvans ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2016 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 1456 |
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The transcript I read (and I couldn't find it when I originally posted) referred to Heenan saying you must be mad to Marler. Of course this is commonly said when someone does something daft and usually said without much thought and not because it is thought the person is genuinely mad. My point was that with Marler's well publicised mental health issues Heenan's comment could well have been misinterpreted. The fact Marler apologised after the game and then admitted his guilt at the hearing and didn't seek to use Heenan's comment as mitigation is at least to his credit even if he was a pi11ock for saying what he did in the first place.
Edited by WEvans - 05 Jan 2023 at 13:21 |
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