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British and Irish Lion Joined: 23 Jun 2016 Location: Norweb Status: Offline Points: 202 |
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I’ve known Oswestry have been going back to the Mids for a while PiffPaff. They were the only North Mids/Shropshire team outside of their home structure. With the likes of Linley and Trentham moving it’s been a while coming. Shame that fact wasn’t the win you wanted, maybe go and create your own board where you can argue with yourself to ensure you always win. Not sure where I’ve got that idea from..
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TimesLikeThese
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That 3rd team point is one of the more ridiculous ones I've heard given that I imagine there would be some sort of division based on locale at that level as there is now and not a complete north west wide league, so it's a completely redundant point. The other points I can understand. The point is there's got to be a way to resolve all of this because currently it's a complete mess. |
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the jackal
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in laymans terms, whats going on?
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OldNick
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As I understand it, in a squabble primarily about money and travel distances, community level Lancashire rugby has pulled out of RFU competitions, dragging Cheshire and Cumbria who shared league divisions with Lancashire out with them, and set up their own merit tables. Since then various people have been calling each other names, and demonstrating why they don't deserve rugby union.
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Raider999
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Who knows, who cares - but it is fun seeing northerners northern-bashing. I suspect the detail is somewhere in the thread if you can be bothered looking for it. |
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RAID ON
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Camquin
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The North Lancastrian sides do not like having to travel to Cumbria and have been complaining for years.
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are the same complaints that caused RFU to instigate the Adult Game
Review in 2015 which came up with a terrible solution to a different
porblem that did not exist, while not solving this one. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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the jackal
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I cannot. I’m just confused as to what happens with promotion for teams that want to get back to level 6 |
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SKalpy
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Jackal,
I think this may answer your question ...http://www.lancashirerugby.co.uk/images/LeagueStatement4_5_18.pdf
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Earl.gray
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There isn’t promotion to level 6. Clubs will Have to rejoin the rfu structure at level 7 again. |
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red rose lad
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I have been fixture secretary for 30 years, when we first went to Cumbria 30 years ago everyone wanted to go sometimes we took 2 teams up to Cumbria, times have changed The wife's and girlfriends today will not put up with what we got away with Players earnings have more outgoings then I had Jobs are not 9-5, 7.30 - 4pm anymore players have to work Saturday's and Sunday's We have lost approximately 70 sides in Lancashire and Greater Manchester, we have a NW League for 2.3 and 4's it's really good but now they have gone power mad and chucking sides out in they can't fulfil fixtures due to cry off's above, as usual the bottom sides cop for it
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red rose lad
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Your county reps have sat on there backside's, not even contacted any of the clubs to tell them what's going on, that's from a Cheshire club who are not very happy to the way your county as reacted
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bva
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red rose lad
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What's it got to do with Aldwinians
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bva
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PiffPaff
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373, its my understanding despite what is on the RFU Website, Oswestry to stay in the North and they haven't agreed to re-join the Midlands?
Also I see the proposal put at the Cheshire AGM is basically is Cheshire screwing Cumbria over. Hopefully all the bile and crap thrown at Lancashire recently by Cumbria & friends of Cumbria will now be aimed elsewhere. For Cheshire to propose almost identically the same thing the Lancashire proposed months/years ago beggars belief. So it wasn't ok for the Lancashire Clubs who complained about excessive travel in case of some Clubs for 12+ seasons and want to re-arrange the NW RFU League structure to cut down on travel albeit at the expense of some Cumbria Clubs at Level 7. Cheshire firmly backing Cumbria's veto to that. The moment a Cheshire Club (lets face it 1 Club) are put in the same situation Cheshire come up with another restructure proposal that puts the Lancashire & Cheshire Clubs together and cuts Cumbria adrift, classy Cheshire bravo. Careful you don't accidently call it the Benson & Hedges League from the Fag Packet it was written on! 373 you come on here and take a pop at Lancs standing their ground and fighting for its constituent member Clubs but the moment Cheshire has to face one of their own with a similar argument (not the same because they actually haven't done any travelling yet) they fold quicker than a deck chair on New Brighton Beach!
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castleparknight
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Oh dear, it looks like folk on the wrong side of the Pennines are not happy with their neighbouring county colleagues.
The only question I have is - do we see this move being an advantage to club rugby as a whole? Or just benefiting a few?
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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TimesLikeThese
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Difficult to say really. The clubs that left may have less travel time but there's not really much to play for. In fairness that might be what they want.
What was the proposal in the Cheshire AGM? I know some Cheshire clubs currently do have to travel to Cumbria for fixtures at 2nd/3rd team level in the higher merit leagues, anything below that they drop to more regional leagues. |
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And that's the bottom line, 'cause Stone Cold said so!
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red rose lad
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There is a serious problem in adult rugby the retaining of players after they gone through colts rugby, the RFU are fully behind the Lancashire teams move to form there own leagues They have recently stated at a safeguarding meeting that mini and junior rugby is thriving but there is big concern in adult rugby, This is huge concern to Lancashire teams as we are losing sides because of the travelling distances and time, other counties Kent, Cornwall and Gloucestershire are concerned and are watching the situation
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bva
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Camquin
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Do we know which teams are playing in which leagues yet?
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Darth Vadar
First XV squad Joined: 08 Jun 2018 Location: Cheshire Status: Offline Points: 56 |
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I read somewhere that more information from Lancashire will be released on Tuesday.
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373
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Interestingly enough there was a vote in the NOWIRUL leagues yesterday evening to remove the Cumbrian teams from those leagues which was defeated unanimously (not a single person voted to kick them out.) Seeing as it included representatives of the break away clubs I find it very odd they didn’t have the same objections about their 2 & 3XV’s travelling to Cumbria.
There’s a lot of inference to be drawn from that one feels. |
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red rose lad
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mainly they travel once a season, that's acceptable, its going 6/7 times a season that the PLAYER'S object to
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bva
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