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dropout22
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Looks like Scottish are the first club to announce serious change at this point, with them stating that without any other changes in regards to funding the club will transfer to a part-time model for the 2020/2021 season.
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Jerorky
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Only one word needed to speak French....,,NON !
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dropout22
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As I did, apoligises. With the news funding will be cut now by £135,000 and that only in 2021/2022 will funding levels go to £288,000. And the news 7 of the current clubs will remain full-time, will it not just be business as usual for most clubs?, albeit squads may be smaller and some may be paid abit less. This may prove beneficial for the champ clubs in my eyes, as I will force some to look at young up and coming players and give them chance, as they won't be able to afford various international imports, which can occasionally be seen by some clubs at the moment. |
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I suspect they wouold be welcomed with open arms - and the whole island asked if it wants to follow.
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Brizzer
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It might be a good idea for the Reds to brush up on their French
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Stalwart
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Looks like there'll be zero funding in a year or two anyway.
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islander
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It is an odd idea, one that I haven't heard advanced at any point so far. Who was it said this PT?
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The Pro 14 would be a good fit for The Pirates, with our Celtic heritage games against Irish, Welsh and Scottish teams would be a proper job!
Zero funding from the RFU though.
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I apologise if the following link has already been posted:
https://bedfordrugby.co.uk/news/2020/02/open-letter-chairman-geoff-irvine-rfu |
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KnightsBoy
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Players Donny helped along the way, not as many as other championship team.
I could have listed more Dr or loans but these players weren't with us long so only a Glenn Young as a 2 year loaner from Newcastle and Curtis Langdon One year DR Exeter Tomas Francis and Jack Yeandle Quin's Glenn Young Wuss Michael Heaney Saints Paul Hill and Piers Francis Sale Will Griff John and Curtis Langdon Bristol Will Hurrell, Lewis Thiede and Jake Armstrong Edited by KnightsBoy - 24 Feb 2020 at 16:56 |
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Richard Lowther
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The Championship and lower leagues provide a fail safe to the Premiership. They allow them to test out players, have 'junior' clubs develop them, possibly to the detriment of their own club results and then pick up the improved player.
The interesting analysis for me is how many players do the Premiership clubs take direct from their academies and into their first team in actual meaningful Premiership games? I suggest it is lower than the Academy players they loan out to other clubs to develop as point 1. |
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Pappashanga
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I thought Edwards was at Rosslyn Park.
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Camquin
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Also where do referees learn to officiate. All the top referees came up through Divisional panels and then Nat1 and the Championship games before being let loose on the Premiership.
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The point is though without a strong 2nd tier then there is a lack of a decent stepping stone to bounce back to a Premiership squad or develop further to make it from a ND1. Decent players could be lost, as they can't prove themselves to get "2nd" chances. Each division plays its part but the Championship is most critical being the closest level to the Premiership for those late developers discarded or not picked up by an RFU funded academy. Take Edwards - was at London Irish but dumped from the academy, went to Rosslyn Park, Blues, then back to Sale at 28 years of age and now in Bordeaux French Top 14. Twelvetrees - deemed not good enough at Leicester. went to Blues, back to Leicester (with a bit of bouncing to Nottingham), before becoming an England international. |
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All true.
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You could equally say Ellis Genge - Old Reds to Hartpury! This idea that somehow Championship clubs are the exclusive breading ground for players who go on to the Premiership is a little odd. Players move from the Premiership clubs to the Championship (and back again). Players move from the Championship to the Premiership. Players move from the National Leagues to the Championship and so on. No league exclusively develops players. Using Genge as an example he signed for Bristol at age 18. Did Old Reds develop him? Hartpury? Or was it Bristol who converted him to prop? Or Leicester or even England? But I'm pleased to see that, as I suspected, the initial cut was just the opening gambit in a negotiation and we'll now see a much smaller reduction, presumably still phased in. I hope this has prompted both the RFU and Championship to get together and finally sort out what they actually want the Championship to be.
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4 props selected to reflect recent wet weather! We were a bit short in a couple of specialist positions although could have gone for Charlie Clare (10 games for us in 12/13 season)
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A proper Jersey squad too with 4 front rowers on the bench. |
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Ellis Genge - Hartpury to Bristol
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