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Raider999
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Posted: 05 Apr 2020 at 20:51 |
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I am hopeful, but there is no guarantee, that we will start on time |
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Cannon
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But sadly how many clubs will collapse over the summer?
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Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!!
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Alderman
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One good thing to come out of the premature end of the season might be that it allows earlier production of next seasons fixtures. I’ll bet a lot of clubs could do, from the financial angle, with an early derby and the return fixture just before Xmas.
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Sid James
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I didnt get it wrong about Otley. I said they "may get a reprieve". Unfortunately, I think the virus may have knocked that reprieve on the head.
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Sid James
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'Arguably', you might expect someone from Surrey to realise that we will not play ourselves. Mind you, home and away makes 12 Yorkshire Derby matches. Happy days! I will miss that bus trip to Plymouth.
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greenpower
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yes but sids team will still only play 6 other teams so 6 derby games to look forward to
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islander
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Arguably someone from Surrey isn't qualified to comment, but I make it 7 Yorkshire teams in N2N: Roth, Ionians, Hull, Wharfedale, Huddersfield, Sheffield T, Harrogate
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CJB1
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Wot 'e said. Be back soon.
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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Moseley Mauler
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I will miss going to Roth a real rugby club who looked after the alikadoos so well. I shall miss the people, the food and the beer.
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Rothman2
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No hard feelings Sid. There’s a lot more to be worried about right now.
Lots of local derbies and great for the coffers......whenever it starts again. I just worry that when it does start how many clubs might be missing. Think the face of the landscape will be quite different. In the meantime it is just a game and stay safe people. Ps congratulations Caldy. Ps you got one bit wrong Sid. Otley are relegated.
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Sid James
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I don't really like people saying "I told you so" but I did tell you 2 weeks ago. See you next season Rotherham. Never mind, 6 Yorkshire derby games to look forward to next season. Sorry Otley, I think the virus has put a block on your possible reprieve. Lets just hope we can get started again in September. All the best everyone.
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WINGER14
World Cup Winner Joined: 26 Apr 2013 Location: LEEDS Status: Offline Points: 536 |
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This season, with the total shutdown of all Rugby Union, is something that hasn't happened before, so should current Regs apply. This season, hopefully, is a one-Off. We'll find out if this is correct come Aug / Sep, when the Coronavirus might still be rampant.
The season finished on the day the RFU abandoned it. There can be NO play-offs as most players, unless re-signed, will be out of contract at the end of April. Teams that are currently in promotion or Relegation places should move up or down. No one can say now, how any unplayed game Might have ended or how League positions Might have changed. Trying to work out all the possible permutations of what Might have happened if the Wind was blowing in the right direction, would take an Einstein working at the RFU, and we all know that non of them are working there. When it comes to the 3rd Club being promoted to Nat 1, how could that be decided, when there can't be a play-off game. No game, No result, No promotion. I'd like to see this happen. I'm A Rotherham Titans supporter, so maybe I'm a Tad biased. With 3 of our last 4 games at Home, and on a good run of picking up points, I would have been confident that we could have avoided relegation had the season been played out. I wish the decisions to be made were in the Lap of the Gods instead of in the Hands of the RFU, but whatever the decisions, we should accept them and just hope that our Clubs survive to the commencement of play, whenever that may be. |
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Rabbie Burns
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Only if they are paid on the books under PAYE and not self employed, not sure if it would cover pay to play as that’s probably the equivalent of zero hour contract
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FHLH
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If their sole income then yes, clubs are a business
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Sid James
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Rothman2, I am well aware of Reg.13 and I agree that these are exceptional circumstances. You have your opinion and I have mine. Both are pure speculation. The season is officially at an end and I see sticking to the NCA regs that are in place as the solution that will be adopted. Time, and the RFU, will tell. I admire your optimism and applaud your love of the game. Stay safe and see you next season.
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Pappashanga
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Lots of interesting ideas. There’s no right or wrong just something reasonably fair in difficult circumstances.
This blog is here for us to air our views and keep each other entertained. I’m sure that whatever the RFU decide will annoy someone.
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stonehousealbion
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In normal circumstances, a team can win a league after 30 games by a single point and there will be no discussion. Equally, there are complicated additional regs as to what happens if you have a points tie at the conclusion of playing. With all contenders in Nat 2S having played 25 games, neither of those scenarios apply.
Putting aside the crazy notion that the powers that be will try to play God and decide the outcomes of the 40 odd cancelled league fixtures plus a post season play-off with its own particular dynamics, I sincerely hope that they will take the least worst option; i) promote the "automatic" top slots, and ii) cancel the second place decider, exceptionally doing away with the third relegee/promotee. All contenders at Level 4 are equally disadvantaged. Rotherham would appear to be the only party "unfairly" advantaged by this aberration. I am open to other objective interpretations of "least worst". And as an aside, this board is a wholly suitable forum for discussion given the current lack of alternative opportunities/venues. No-one appears to be arguing about the unilateral cessation of the season; we are merely debating the loose ends of a lower order conundrum brought on by the current situation.
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Come cheer up, my lads - 'tis to glory we steer!
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Toulouse
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Rant No. 2......
We all love the game of Rugby.....we all want our teams to do well......promotion and glory are so important to so many........ But look at the bigger picture.......over the next 4-5 weeks thousands of people could die in the UK, families devistated by the loss of life, communities wrecked by unemployment. Just look at what is happening in Italy and Spain.........We all love Rugby, the game will still be there in months to come whilst many people will not. If lawsuits proliferate it will only line the pockets of dispicable lawyers........ Into the second day of Prohibition.....looking for a Speakeasy..........
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Camp Freddie
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Will some of the professional players qualify for the £2500/month that teh Chancellor has promised to employees affected by the virus ?
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The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom.
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Toulouse
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There are some good suggestions as to what to do with relegations and promotions..........but unfortunately you are all wasting your grey cells....!!! the RFU will decide what will happen so we will just have to wait and see what a total and utter clusterf%ck they will make of it....... Just look at the Leeds affair last season, the Saracens affair and the Championship mess.....
Leeds to be promoted to the Premiership( so many Yorkshiremen in the RFU) Saracens to remain in the Premiership.... Caldy relagated to NW 5 Richmond deducted 105 points....just for having the barefaced audacity to question the RFU over the Leeds debacle!!!! Who knows what the Really Fu%%in Useless will do... Sorry for the rant but the pubs closed and I have had a conversation with the wife.....6 minutes was enough!!!!!!
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