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I put a few Falcons fans right on Facebook when they were boasting they’ve battered every single team, every single game. I pointed out that in fact they haven’t and the points difference in fact has been as low as 4 points. Yes they’ve had a good season but some of their fans are breathtakingly short sighted when it comes to some of their shortcomings.
Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....

You mean you gave your opinion on Facebook don't you?
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Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?
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Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?

No different I suspect to most sponsors of most teams. 
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Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?
Unsure about the Trailfinders business, but Ealing have said they're not paying anyone any less than was promised. Also just announced two new academy staff for next year. So looks like more investment going into the club, rather than money being taken out.
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?


No different I suspect to most sponsors of most teams. 


Apart from the fact it is 1 sponsorship source so must make it more susceptible than clubs who have a number of smaller sponsors - particularly when their business is going to take a huge hit for a long period.
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Given that the bloke is worth 400 million (allegedly- I was reading an interview with him online- and that was last year) I don’t think he’s going to go bust overnight. Granted some travel agencies have gone bust because they put all their eggs in one basket, something Trailfinders to be fair don’t appear to have done. From what I’ve read he’s very shrewd with his finances so even if the business model takes a hit his personal fortune should see him and Ealing through. 
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Ampthill DOR Mark Lavery commented on Ealing's position during an interview on Sky Sports News, being as diplomatic as I can be he wasn't very supportive



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Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
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Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?

It is  going to knock a hole in everyones pocket and every business.  I think other clubs will suffer financially more than Ealing Trailfinders.
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Interesting line on promotion today, albeit from another sport: the FA announced today that all lower-league (non-league) football was done for the season, and that all records would be wiped. The newly-launched Jersey Bulls team had won 27/27 in the Combined Counties League and mathematically secured promotion earlier this month, but now seemingly won't go up unless there is a restructuring or some special case made...
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Interesting line on promotion today, albeit from another sport: the FA announced today that all lower-league (non-league) football was done for the season, and that all records would be wiped. The newly-launched Jersey Bulls team had won 27/27 in the Combined Counties League and mathematically secured promotion earlier this month, but now seemingly won't go up unless there is a restructuring or some special case made...

That seems pretty tough on a team that had actually secured promotion.
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Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Interesting line on promotion today, albeit from another sport: the FA announced today that all lower-league (non-league) football was done for the season, and that all records would be wiped. The newly-launched Jersey Bulls team had won 27/27 in the Combined Counties League and mathematically secured promotion earlier this month, but now seemingly won't go up unless there is a restructuring or some special case made...

That seems pretty tough on a team that had actually secured promotion.

not really if the relegation issue in the division above is not decided
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Originally posted by Member728 Member728 wrote:

Originally posted by Stalwart Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Interesting line on promotion today, albeit from another sport: the FA announced today that all lower-league (non-league) football was done for the season, and that all records would be wiped. The newly-launched Jersey Bulls team had won 27/27 in the Combined Counties League and mathematically secured promotion earlier this month, but now seemingly won't go up unless there is a restructuring or some special case made...

That seems pretty tough on a team that had actually secured promotion.

not really if the relegation issue in the division above is not decided

That should be the logical position the RFU should take. Results wiped except in the case of promotion/relegation between leagues where the positions are already guaranteed. For example in N3LSE, Guildford are mathematically relegated and North Walsham in L1N are mathematically champions so the RFU should just swap them over.   
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So by the above 'logic' Saracens, altho' mathematically relegated, wouldn't be replaced by Newcastle due to the latter not having had the chance to seal the deal...?
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

So by the above 'logic' Saracens, altho' mathematically relegated, wouldn't be replaced by Newcastle due to the latter not having had the chance to seal the deal...?

I think the only exception to that would be any existing sanctions by the RFU.
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Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?


No different I suspect to most sponsors of most teams. 


Apart from the fact it is 1 sponsorship source so must make it more susceptible than clubs who have a number of smaller sponsors - particularly when their business is going to take a huge hit for a long period.

Ealing Trailfinders have dozens of smaller business sponsors . When you come down to Ealing take a look at all of the advertising boards that surround the entire pitch. Other parts of the club, the amateurs the Youth and Mini`s all have sponsors . They have hidden sponsors who not advertise but give generously to the club. The fact is you a wrong and not the first time when it comes to Ealing Trailfinders
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by Raider999 Raider999 wrote:

Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by maire23 maire23 wrote:

Some of them appeared not to even know who Ealing were and confidently claimed they had no stable backing....
Hmm, might the COVID-19 pandemic knock a hole in Mike Gooley's business model for the Trailfinders business?  And if so, wouldn't that have an impact on Ealing's finances?


No different I suspect to most sponsors of most teams. 


Apart from the fact it is 1 sponsorship source so must make it more susceptible than clubs who have a number of smaller sponsors - particularly when their business is going to take a huge hit for a long period.


Ealing Trailfinders have dozens of smaller business sponsors . When you come down to Ealing take a look at all of the advertising boards that surround the entire pitch. Other parts of the club, the amateurs the Youth and Mini`s all have sponsors . They have hidden sponsors who not advertise but give generously to the club. The fact is you a wrong and not the first time when it comes to Ealing Trailfinders


Deliberately, or otherwise, you know exactly what I mean, but I will spell it out for you.

A team with 20 sponsors putting in £50k each is likely to be more sustainable than 1 sponsor putting in £1m - just ask Old Elthamians, Birmingham & Solihull etc
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

So by the above 'logic' Saracens, altho' mathematically relegated, wouldn't be replaced by Newcastle due to the latter not having had the chance to seal the deal...?

Saracens chose to be relegated rather than open their books therefore if there is no promotion/relegation this season that decision should be carried over until the end of next season. Ensuring no points are to be played for in all Premiership games involving Saracens until then would prevent them from Lovelying the league further.
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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

So by the above 'logic' Saracens, altho' mathematically relegated, wouldn't be replaced by Newcastle due to the latter not having had the chance to seal the deal...?


Saracens chose to be relegated rather than open their books therefore if there is no promotion/relegation this season that decision should be carried over until the end of next season. Ensuring no points are to be played for in all Premiership games involving Saracens until then would prevent them from Lovelying the league further.


You are correct Saracens chose to be relegated so should be.

If they don't promote Newcastle then next season there should be 11 in the Premiership and 13 in the Championship.
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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

So by the above 'logic' Saracens, altho' mathematically relegated, wouldn't be replaced by Newcastle due to the latter not having had the chance to seal the deal...?

Saracens chose to be relegated rather than open their books therefore if there is no promotion/relegation this season that decision should be carried over until the end of next season. Ensuring no points are to be played for in all Premiership games involving Saracens until then would prevent them from Lovelying the league further.

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