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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 19:54
I would think DMP are in a horrible position as I believe the money to run the Arena comes from bookings and like most there haven’t been any and I would not imagine that the overheads are small even with a closed shop
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Jul 2020 at 19:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 14:24
Originally posted by The Joy of (Level) 7 The Joy of (Level) 7 wrote:

Why is it that an administrative error, that has no direct benefit to the club on the pitch receives a points deduction and yet a drugs offence by a player, that presumably does garner an onfield benefit to the club, doesn’t?

A very good point! One that no doubt the Blazers at the RFU have considered................... over a long lunch. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 14:06
Why is it that an administrative error, that has no direct benefit to the club on the pitch receives a points deduction and yet a drugs offence by a player, that presumably does garner an onfield benefit to the club, doesn’t?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 13:36
A 5 Point may not be a big deal over a 30 league season , but if the season does not start until after 3rd October the season becomes effectively a 15 game season , with the league splitting after 15 games at stage two and the clubs are either the top 8 or the bottom 8 to play off for promotion or relegation and in window 3 it is a straight 15 games so effectively it will  be a double penalty.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 12:24
I see that Chinnor have announced Delon Armitage as a Coach for the coming season. Bet he's cheap............ 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 12:22
After Rams had a points deduction for roughly the same offence as Plymouth the RFU probably has no choice, but that doesn't stop them being total Huckleberrywombles when it comes to dealing with volunteers. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jul 2020 at 11:38
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Among the bad news, the staff at the former YC Academy have been made redundant.
As has the Kit manager.
Reported on the Leeds board and Linkedin posts.




I'm sure that they have been expecting it for some time, not that it makes things any easier.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2020 at 23:59
Among the bad news, the staff at the former YC Academy have been made redundant.
As has the Kit manager.
Reported on the Leeds board and Linkedin posts.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 18:58
Not sure if they were declared British but they were  I think Kiwis And Medway had paid the flights and accommodation And not declared it from memory. I am not sure that they broke any regulations on the English front but will happily be corrected. From memory it was around this time that several clubs suddenly had a first XV Ltd as the loopholes started to close 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 17:49
Originally posted by Cannon Cannon wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

I think the most famous case is in this neck of the woods was Medway RFC who complained about there players being poached and ended up a couple of leagues down, fined and other sanctions all around benefits in kind

Though Medway also originally claimed to the RFU that the players were amateur while they were giving them semi-pro benefits without declaring them. Medway's wasn't just an administrative oversight.
If you recall at the time Medway were castigated by all around them, yet it was well known other local clubs "amateur players" were benefitting from playing rugby, in the Kent press there was an article that clubs were poaching yet no one had followed their complaints up. My club was at L6 at the same time and we were very aware of players receiving material benefits and not just in Kent.

From my limited research, all the cases of clubs being disciplined are where the said club has made the RFU aware themselves, either through declaring their accounts for grants, loans or allowances or where a club has complained of players being poached.

I can’t remember exactly but I think there were also immigration offences with Medway - players incorrectly declared as British.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 16:46
Bit like Sarries in the AP. As you say at the time there was plenty of skullduggery going on probably still is
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Jul 2020 at 14:58
Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

I think the most famous case is in this neck of the woods was Medway RFC who complained about there players being poached and ended up a couple of leagues down, fined and other sanctions all around benefits in kind

Though Medway also originally claimed to the RFU that the players were amateur while they were giving them semi-pro benefits without declaring them. Medway's wasn't just an administrative oversight.
If you recall at the time Medway were castigated by all around them, yet it was well known other local clubs "amateur players" were benefitting from playing rugby, in the Kent press there was an article that clubs were poaching yet no one had followed their complaints up. My club was at L6 at the same time and we were very aware of players receiving material benefits and not just in Kent.

From my limited research, all the cases of clubs being disciplined are where the said club has made the RFU aware themselves, either through declaring their accounts for grants, loans or allowances or where a club has complained of players being poached.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 16:34
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

would love to no how PARFC were getting confused about MATERIAL BENEFITS

sounds very fishy to me HMRC tax avoidance tax man knocking on door trouble same old rugby



Your post doesn't make any sense at all. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Jul 2020 at 16:17
Originally posted by Rabbie Burns Rabbie Burns wrote:

I think the most famous case is in this neck of the woods was Medway RFC who complained about there players being poached and ended up a couple of leagues down, fined and other sanctions all around benefits in kind

Though Medway also originally claimed to the RFU that the players were amateur while they were giving them semi-pro benefits without declaring them. Medway's wasn't just an administrative oversight.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 14:20
I think the most famous case is in this neck of the woods was Medway RFC who complained about there players being poached and ended up a couple of leagues down, fined and other sanctions all around benefits in kind
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 13:55
I have not seen the form, but I thought the point was that four officers had to sign it off.
The point being that each one should check it is accurate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 13:42
Originally posted by backrowb backrowb wrote:

I just don't see how when PARFC were the ones that contacted the RFU to say they may have done it wrong, then corrected the error, and still get hammered.   Sorry, but I think that is petty and totally unwarranted 


I thought that has been the case in other instances
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 11:35
I just don't see how when PARFC were the ones that contacted the RFU to say they may have done it wrong, then corrected the error, and still get hammered.   Sorry, but I think that is petty and totally unwarranted 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 11:10
Originally posted by TigerTitan TigerTitan wrote:

would love to no how PARFC were getting confused about MATERIAL BENEFITS

sounds very fishy to me HMRC tax avoidance tax man knocking on door trouble same old rugby




Having run my own company in the past, I can see how volunteers could easily be confused about Benefits - what with reams and reams of HRMC documentation on the subject.
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