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billesleyexile1
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can always charge for the programme....
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Halliford
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Keep posting, Billesleyexile1, only another 500 to get back to your old level!
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billesleyexile1
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I've genuinely got no idea what happened - went to log in the other week and it didn't recognise my username, posting name, email address, anything. None of them have changed... it was the fact it didn't recognise the username that totally threw me! You can't even contact an admin from that position. Been posting one here since 2011 or whenever it was and just shut out... trying not to take it personally!
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billesleyexile
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and with one bound, he was free! you ever so slightly undershot how many posts I'd need to make by a factor of 2 Halliford!
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keep the faith
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Halliford
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Is this freedom or are you out on licence? Apologies for undershooting, I forgot that you’re trying to rival Trump for post numbers!
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Scrumtime
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So what happens now Halliford?
Kent in tier 3 as is most of the north. Clubhouse bars stay shut. 5 days off over Xmas Tier 3 coming for all (apart from Cornwall who are doing their own thing anyway ) in Jan I'd say Whats the next move please? Edited by Scrumtime - 27 Nov 2020 at 09:44 |
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MCNRY
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If Halifford can provide an answer within 24 hours of the government announcement, he'd be better off in power than on this forum! The word patience springs to mind....
Edited by MCNRY - 27 Nov 2020 at 11:14 |
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Halliford
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I calkculate 24 NCA Clubs beinbg in Tier 3, 22 in Tier 2 and 2 (Guernsey and Redruth) being in Tier 1. Rugby can be played at every level, subject to the type of game DCMS will allow the RFU to play. At Tiers 1 and 2 Clubhouse Bars can be open provided they are serving a substantial meal. Outdoor bars are allowed provided people don't mix with another household (Tier 2) or end up in groups bigger than 6 (Tier 1).
The optimist would say, great, let's find a way of doing it! The pessimist would say, I'll follow Scrumtime
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Scrumtime
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Play nicely please! I was asking because you are about 3 weeks ahead of the news! I will stand corrected but I don’t think you can travel in and out of tier 3, sport or no sport I see super Spurs have said no fans will be admitted from tier 3 areas.
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Raider999
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Except it has already been said that Guernsey are not allowing visitors for their football team, so why would they for the rugby team? At least Redrith can have a local comp with Launceston etc. Edited by Raider999 - 27 Nov 2020 at 19:53 |
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RAID ON
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stonehousealbion
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My personal feeling is that this competition will be a test of personal/collective Covid hygiene practices as much as the usual on-field skills and the ability to adapt to the new "rugby-lite". (Which will have an interesting, hopefully entertaining, but short lifespan.) Additionally, individual players will have varying views of the pros/cons of putting body/career/lifestyle on the line for a competition of undetermined merit. All this sounds terribly negative and bah - humbuggy in an un-Xmas way. The NCA and participating clubs will need a lot of good luck for the Cup to succeed as intended. I fear it won't need much in the way of bad luck or decisions at all for it to misfire - or worse. Example: A household in my family (OEs catchment area), has tested 2/3 +ve (both males, gents) after a meal out at a responsibly managed, socially distanced restaurant 9 days ago. Female parent currently awaiting second test result after displaying typical Covid symptoms since Fri am. It could all boil down to an inadequately cleaned door handle/tap/loo seat in the Gents as female initially tested -ve. (Symptoms appear to be moderating all round at this stage, thankfully.) More than any amount of stats or Govt blandishment, this has caused prolonged pause for thought on my part. Male parent is a rugby supporter straight out of R-M demographic with underlying health concerns totally under control pre-pandemic. But I can't see him rushing to attend matches in what should be the one of the most attractive groups. As they used to say at SU debates, "This is speaking ON the subject" rather than for/against. Anyone care to try and boost my flagging optimism?
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Come cheer up, my lads - 'tis to glory we steer!
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WEvans
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My glass is half full.
But as someone else touched it I can't drink out of it
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DGS Old Boy
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This might be a silly question but how will a club in Covid tier 3 travel to a club in Covid their 2 when it's not allowed?
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Raider999
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Not a silly question at all, also how can a tier 2 team return to base after playing at a tier 3 venue - again not allowed. |
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Moseley Mauler
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I can't believe that this competition will go ahead
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backrowb
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BFG1
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The RFU
information on Tier restrictions is correct for amateur players but there is a
subtle difference for paid players. They come under the “sport as paid
employment” category and, as such, are exempt from the travel restrictions in
Tier 3. Rugby does not have to be their full time profession and can be
considered to be a part time job. People in this category can travel to train or
play rugby matches providing they are paid. Paid coaches, physios and any paid
support staff also come into to this category. To come
under this category, a person must be remunerated for rugby duties at an hourly
rate no less than the National Minimum Wage hourly rate which for adults is
currently £8.72. This must be evidenced by payment through a payroll system
with appropriate deductions of tax and NI. My understanding is that rugby work
is the time that the person is required to be at his place of work which is the
training ground or a match location. Travelling time is not considered to be
rugby time. Unfortunately
players who are not paid do not come under this relaxation and are governed by
the Tier 3 restrictions on travel. Some of the
key Tier restrictions affecting level 3 and 4 clubs are summarized below. These
should be read in conjunction with the guidelines on the RFU web site.
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Moseley Mauler
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What a farce. As I have already said, it won't happen....
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billesleyexile
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All of which is lovely, but who is going to pay their players to play behind closed doors for the hell of it? Seriously, I've said before that if Mose get a game on and we can go then I'll go, I just can't see it happening.
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keep the faith
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Thatbloke
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Trust me - it won't!!
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