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Sid James
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All I can say is 'Volenti non fit injuria'.
My sympathies with your condition and personal problems but I would ask that please stop this claim as it has the potential to allow the 'PC/Sympathy voting' gang to get involved and ruin the game from which you made a living.
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Bigmal
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Good points Marigold - problem is we realistically can't go back 40 years and the players are unlikely to shrink or indeed reduce their training load.
I can't help feeling that in some way the game will have to clearly differentiate between the amateur and professional arms with some sort of "semi pro" level to provide a potential gateway to the professional game. Perhaps the powers that be should consult with the likes of Mike Tindall who played at the highest level and yet has still turned out subsequently for his local team. He should be able to at least offer a few thoughts based on personal experience and I'm sure that there are others who could do the same? |
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Steve@Mose
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Concussion in rugby: World Rugby 'stands with' former players in new welfare plan
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isleonian
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As Sid James commented above "If you put yourself willingly in the firing line with full knowledge of possible injuries then if it hits you tough sh1* my friend".
Question: when did American Football adopt helmets and all the protective gear worn by payers, and why?
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Steve@Mose
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Surprisingly shoulder pads were created in 1877, only 8 years after the first ever American football match. I guess that in the early days players were looking for every advantage they could get in the tackle. There does not appear to be a comparable list for rugby players, but this 2018 article from Wales Online covers a number of match-related deaths in recent years.
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Steve@Mose
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Sport is 'marking its own homework' on athletes' brain injuries, say MPs
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CJB1
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Tee hee ...
"The football helmet is a piece of protective equipment used mainly made so Tom Brady can't kiss other players on the lips. "
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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Steve@Mose
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That's not my edit......
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Steve@Mose
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Camquin
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The article talks of 11,000 contact events a season, which is 30 a day every day of the year. Most of those must be in training - and that suggest they are doing far too much contact training.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Steve@Mose
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Players could drop out of game 'at all levels' unless there is change warns head injury foundation
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Steve@Mose
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Camquin
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I believe these are related to the ones Quins use. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Raider999
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I imagine this will lead to more players going off for HIAs?
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RAID ON
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FHLH
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Agree absolutely. Stick your head above the parapet, expect some return fire. (no pun intended). I have limited sympathy for the individual players, to carry on playing after concussions (cf George North) is just f*cling stupid. Caveat re undocumented injuries/unnoticed concussions. But, if you're off the pitch for an assessment and are told to stay off, give up the game, especially as everything is now out in the open. Volenti is certainly now triggered, no claims for new injuries. Edited by FHLH - 31 Oct 2021 at 11:40 |
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Steve@Mose
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Steve Thompson on BBC Radio 4's Saturday Live
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FHLH
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When did this first become apparent? With the advent of the professional, winner take all, aggressive game?
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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billesleyexile
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going to tread very carefully here because I've no intention of igniting a code war, but I think it was evident in 'punch Huckleberryly Pear' ex League players right back in the 50s (if not earlier) so probably. On the other hand, and this won't help those being diagnosed in their 40s now, go back far enough and most people were dying before they got old enough to get/show signs of things like this, so who knows? Maybe it has always been an issue in the pro and amateur games to a greater extent than we actually think. I do worry occasionally that rugby (both codes) has got a pretty finite life left.
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keep the faith
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Steve@Mose
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Ryan Jones: Ex-Wales captain reveals early onset dementia diagnosis
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WESTCOMBE RANGER
World Cup Winner Westcombe Park Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2299 |
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I suffered a concussion during a game in the early nineties. Didn't have a clue at the time how it happened but I was flat out for about a minute ( so I was told) and was helped off the pitch because I couldn't walk. At that time there had been a guideline issued to all clubs by the RFU which specifically stated that anyone who had been concussed should not be considered for selection for the next 2 weeks. I availed myself of this opportunity to rest which at the time was greeted with mixed views, which I don't think need explaining,
. It was only a guideline at the time but what it does show is that, even back then, there was an awareness of this issue and I was not playing at a high level ( and never have ) at the time. |
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The older I get, the better I was.
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