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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

[QUOTE=KnightsBoy]By hook or by crook, Sarries are going up.

So that will be crook - or is that crooked?
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Crooked ! Not a word you would normally associate with Rugby Union but looking forward to the future it will be synonymous with Saracens and the players involved. In the future ( not looking back  ) over old news ! I believe Saracens will be back in the Premiership even if they never play a game in the Championship.
Fairplay ! in reality it is a rare occurence in sport and less in ' professional rugby union.
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So is it a 14 team Premiership?
Saracens and Ealing ‘promoted’.

But will the 10 Championship clubs bite the bullet. Bring in 6 teams from National 1, two conferences.
Possibly to offer clubs stability no relegation for one or two seasons? 
Guessing a September 2021 restart?
Looking forward to new beginnings.
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I've locked one thread, do you want me to do it to this one too?

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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

I've locked one thread, do you want me to do it to this one too?

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Excellant contribution ! Much better than a row of ZZZZzzzzz's
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I am being optimistic. The whole idea of this lockdown is to reduce deaths while the vaccine is rolled out. If the roll out means that deaths drop massively (which it should do when we get through the first couple of priority groups), then I could see life getting back to reasonably normal by March. 

To me, the vaccine being out there makes this a very different lock down than the previous couple as there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Excellant contribution ! Much better than a row of ZZZZzzzzz's

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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

then I could see life getting back to reasonably normal by March. 


I'd say that's exceedingly optimistic.
Can't see anything happening until September now.

Hope I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by Richard Lowther Richard Lowther wrote:

I've locked one thread, do you want me to do it to this one too?

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Absolutely right. How dare people discuss rugby-related issues on a rugby thread on a rugby forum!
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Rumours about that clubs some clubs have not been allocated the funding they have applied for and in the circumstances they will not be taking part in the Championship deadline is Friday. No sure how the land lies there but I understand where they are coming from if funding is not what they expected
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Nailed it with your first word....."rumours'..... yawnConfused
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If that rumour could be substantiated with statements of fact from clubs then it would have some weight but whilst a rumour sadly it is just that.

I heard a rumour I was getting a 50% pay rise, but as I work for the NHS it will end up being a 1.5% cut in real terms.....actually that did happen last April (the pay cut) so not really a rumour. 

Let us just wait and see what happens regarding clubs playing or not playing rather than chucking the hand grenade into the room :-) 
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castleparknight, maybe cut NHS salaries and de-nationalise that company to help the Government fund Championship rugby clubs?
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Perfect plan Wink
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https://www.ampthillrufc.com/arufc-request-for-help/?fbclid=IwAR2kidquqiv0jzqfgaoiTT9eWVUj9FHKvoIH79PqWvJeSoTWkJ6CzSKGVgI     From Ampthill Rugby club

Edited by Mickyboy - 30 Jan 2021 at 13:44
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So effectively Rugby outside the top flight, might return in September 
Looking forward to new beginnings.
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Originally posted by Mickyboy Mickyboy wrote:

https://www.ampthillrufc.com/arufc-request-for-help/?fbclid=IwAR2kidquqiv0jzqfgaoiTT9eWVUj9FHKvoIH79PqWvJeSoTWkJ6CzSKGVgI     From Ampthill Rugby club

The lack of grants for Rugby's second tier is ridiculous. If it is elite sport, then it deserves some kind of funding.
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Gerg, its not "elite" enough, remember RFU CEO Bill Sweeney believes the Championship is more aligned to the Community game than the Premiership. I said elsewhere that outside of Ealing, Donny and Sarries it was unlikely that the rest of the Championship was going to find tens of 1000s of £s  to pay for effective testing. The lack of grants is because "rugby's 2nd Tier" is NOT self-sufficient and Clubs like ET cannot purport to be "elite" when your average crowd is just over 1000, indeed the average attendance in the Championship is just over 1600 (2018/19 season) and that's with at least one big fish per year coming down from the Prem. Other than the Premiership (and Premier 15s) we won't see any other League rugby until mid-September if we are lucky.
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Originally posted by PiffPaff PiffPaff wrote:

Gerg, its not "elite" enough, remember RFU CEO Bill Sweeney believes the Championship is more aligned to the Community game than the Premiership. I said elsewhere that outside of Ealing, Donny and Sarries it was unlikely that the rest of the Championship was going to find tens of 1000s of £s  to pay for effective testing. The lack of grants is because "rugby's 2nd Tier" is NOT self-sufficient and Clubs like ET cannot purport to be "elite" when your average crowd is just over 1000, indeed the average attendance in the Championship is just over 1600 (2018/19 season) and that's with at least one big fish per year coming down from the Prem. Other than the Premiership (and Premier 15s) we won't see any other League rugby until mid-September if we are lucky.

Crowd size has nothing to do with whether or not a team is "Elite". I am constantly baffled by the lack of crowds, but if you cut funding, don't advertise the league, and create a non-competitive league structure (no playoffs, huge parachute payment) it is no surprise that the league struggles. Bill Sweeny should be canned immediately - his leadership has been non-existent, and failing to get a better funding package for teams up and down the ladder stops at his door.
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I’d be surprised if there’s a league game before January 2022
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