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It is the best players from four powerful rugby union countries in their own right . It is highest accolade in rugby union. I cannot think of any other sporting team that comes near especially considering they only tour away on the oppositions patch.
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Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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islander
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I don't doubt that, long may it stay that way. Not sure what this means in terms of what should happen regarding the Tour scheduled for this summer... ie which of the various options would suitably reflect how important the Lions is to players (as well as ticking the box marked money which I'm afraid is part-and-parcel of modern pro sport)
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French Connection
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I don't think that there's much hope or possibility at all of the tour going ahead, and correctly so. A very small price to pay for getting the world out of the horrendous situation we're in.
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dwinpenn
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Lions tours without tens of thousands of home nation supporters touring with them isn't a Lions tour nowadays.
I fear that if the Lions go ahead by moving it to Australia then it will be the end of the Lions within a couple of tours. I struggle to understand how those who make the decisions seem blind to the power of the supporter in this discussion.
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Dave Winpenny
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MikeGC
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When people up the thread mentioned money, I strongly suspect that they didn’t have any players in mind.
However, the Home Unions "Blazerati" will have their snouts firmly in the trough. The players share hotel rooms, which are of a decent standard, likewise the coaches/physios, etc. The "Blazerati" travel first class and stay 5 star alone or with Mrs Blazerati. And, obviously, the monetary value to the hosting Union is vitally important. |
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Robb
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The Aussie proposal is shear opportunism and I think we can thank the Blazerati of the Lions for quickly telling them where to go and to wait their turn. I still think we still have a chance by the fact SA opened up the pubs with falling numbers and vaccinations starting up. In spite of all the doommoungers, that slight glimmer of hope is still there.
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Golden Jackal
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Ref Australia hosting....restrictions on supporters travelling may well apply, but there are many thousands of ex pats that would happily fill the stadiums....even Perth!
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sidelined
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Just out if interest, why does the tour have to be against one of the three Southern Hemisphere sides?
Why not a 3 match series against, for sake of argument, France?
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Raider999
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Presumably because when the Lions first formed France weren't any good. Why not Italy? Also it would be a bit like a day trip unlike the tours of the Southern Hemisphere. |
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RAID ON
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Robb
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Oh no. You can't have the French. Wrong sort for a tour. The coming together of the British Isles is supposed to be a big event, you just cross the channel there's no spectacle and it's just dull playing a side you play over there every 2 years.
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PiffPaff
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The Lions use to Tour Argentina back in the day, however I think the Argies are mirroring our CV-19 rates so hardly a respite option.
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Crouch, Bind, Tweet!
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kingsheathlad
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The BBC article today about the death of Dave Egerton said he played for British Lions in 1989 against France. I cannot recall any game between Lions and France.?
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Cauliflower ear.
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PiffPaff
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He did as art of the celebrations for the Bicentennial of the French Revolution.
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Crouch, Bind, Tweet!
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WEvans
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Who won?
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South of Tyne
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Lions 27 - 29
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islander
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So we were told that a decision was imminent, but everything seems a bit fluid during Covid-19 which I guess isn't a surprise. (I was led to believe a decision on the Championship was imminent in October!)
Anyway, the Fun Bus has broken his silence in today's Torygraph... Jason Leonard, chairman of the British and Irish Lions, says the board remains committed to staging a “traditional tour of South Africa” this summer but may have to wait up to two months to make a final decision on whether that is possible because of the pandemic restrictions. The Lions board had been expected to make a final decision on the future of the tour by mid-February but Leonard said the board were determined to delay the decision as late as possible in order to get “the best possible solution” based on the latest information. Contingency plans to stage the series in the UK and Ireland have also been progressing, while Australia have also offered to host the tour that is scheduled for July and August, while if the tour goes ahead to South Africa as scheduled the matches may have to be behind closed doors. Leonard, capped five times for the Lions across three tours, 1993, 1997 and 2001, said the board were still progressing with their plans and were in constant dialogue with all their stakeholders. “It is all fluid, there could be a decision in one next week, there could be one in four, six or eight weeks’ time,” said Leonard, speaking at the relaunch of the Front Row Club, a fundraising platform for his charity The Atlas Foundation. “There is nothing on the table at this moment in time where we are saying ‘this is what we need to do’. “We are still working with all involved to give ourselves the best option of hopefully trying to provide a traditional Lions tour – at least as much as a traditional Lions tour as we possibly can. Obviously it is not a traditional year so a traditional Lions tour could well be impossible to deliver." As for whether he had a preference to whether the tour should go ahead if it meant playing matches behind closed doors, or switching the series to the UK and Ireland, Leonard added: “You can’t discuss an option in isolation because then that is a little bit misleading. “I think from all concerned, until someone tells us, it is not on, you want to deliver a tour in South Africa this summer. “That might be taken away from us. I don’t have a crystal ball. All the other options, which are great options, we have got to go through them. If that is not available, then what would the alternative be? “We still don’t know the answer. Let’s just say, the borders are shut again? The players might not be able to get into the country. We can only work with where we are at this moment in time on the information that we have got. “Everyone is working so hard from all parties to see what is there. At the end of the day we are all striving to see what would possibly be the best solution. We will do whatever it takes.” Leonard is all too aware of what the tour means to South Africa, having set up his Atlas Foundation five years ago to help impoverished and deprived children around the world, including the townships in Cape Town. “I had a great life travelling around the world with rugby and was lucky enough to go to some of the most beautiful places in the world, but even some of the most beautiful places around the world have slums - go to Cape Town or Buenos Aires - beautiful places, but go a couple of miles out of town and there are all the shanty towns and slums,” Leonard added. “So I created Atlas to help deprived children in some of the poorest places in the world and use rugby’s values – respect, trust and team-work – to help kids improve their lives. “Because 2020 was such a tough year for all charities we have looked at how we can raise funds for our fight against child poverty Front Row club is an online clubhouse for members and we have prize draws and competitions with rugby content, including rugby champions such as Maro Itoje, Maggie Alphonsi and John Smit who are all contributing to it. “At this moment at time, these children need help more than ever. Over the last five years, we have provided things like coaches, pitches and doctors but it has now morphed into feeding programmes because people in the slums can’t go out and work because of the lockdown programme and how do they feed their families? “So our coaches who normally coach in our projects have been providing food packages for kids and families in South Africa, Argentina and Kenya.” |
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WEvans
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No I meant the French Revolution (Sorry!)
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Camquin
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Its too soon to say
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Robb
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No news is good news is my view.
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islander
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Lions' scoop from local paper in Jersey... also picked up by the Grauniad
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