No relegation

Raider999 wrote: There is a major problem with increasing the number of teams in the Premiership to 13 or 14 - this means increasing the number of weekly rounds from 22 to 26. To achieve this something must go - either the Premiership Cup or the end of season play-offs (or both).

islander wrote: Raider999 wrote: There is a major problem with increasing the number of teams in the Premiership to 13 or 14 - this means increasing the number of weekly rounds from 22 to 26. To achieve this something must go - either the Premiership Cup or the end of season play-offs (or both). <div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension"> Surely the Prem Cup gets binned - would that constitute a major problem?

Personally, I would say no problem - most games involve reserve/junior players with the odd senior player who needs some game time.

My point was that those advocating 13/14 teams in a ring-fenced Premiership don't offer any explanation of how to fit the extra 4 weeks of fixtures in.

islander wrote: Raider999 wrote: islander wrote: Raider999 wrote: There is a major problem with increasing the number of teams in the Premiership to 13 or 14 - this means increasing the number of weekly rounds from 22 to 26. To achieve this something must go - either the Premiership Cup or the end of season play-offs (or both). <div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension"> Surely the Prem Cup gets binned - would that constitute a major problem? Personally, I would say no problem - most games involve reserve/junior players with the odd senior player who needs some game time. My point was that those advocating 13/14 teams in a ring-fenced Premiership don't offer any explanation of how to fit the extra 4 weeks of fixtures in. <div id="ypm-extension" ="ypm-extension"> I agree this hasn't been spelled out directly, but the Prem Cup 'swap' seems obvious, doesn't it? (and also scores some 'player welfare' points - if there are 13 teams - due to there being 2 x bye weeks)

Not disagreeing with you, however I would not want it ring-fenced - there must always be some way of getting to the top-table, after all where were European/English champions Exeter 20 years ago?

Probably just a BBC mistake but this is the end of the article on Saracens cancelling their match at Donny.

"The 12-team league will be split into two conferences from March with the winners of each playing a two-legged final for the right to earn promotion to the Premiership."

Surely if you win the final you have earned the right to be promoted already? Or do they mean it only means automatic promotion if Sarries win it? Is the minimum standard criteria still a thing?

OLDALIKADOO10 wrote: I think the challenge is giving Saracens a shot at promotion. The championship may be split into 4 conferences to reduce fixtures and I’ve even heard I could be a shoot out between the championship teams that can operate without crowds. Who knows what the outcome will be, but I guarantee there are a lot of people in dark rooms thinking about all sorts of ways to ensure the championship has a team promoted

isleonian wrote: Why not administer the Premiership and Championship together as the professional clubs a bit like France?

Presumably because this would mean sharing the Premiership money out between more clubs?

Otherwise why would the Championship clubs go for it?

islander wrote: isleonian wrote: Why not administer the Premiership and Championship together as the professional clubs a bit like France? Because the Prem clubs don't want this, and they can't - realistically - be forced into it.

isleonian wrote: Why not administer the Premiership and Championship together as the professional clubs a bit like France?

Premier Rugby Limited was incorporated in March 2001. So at the start of the Guinness era.


Edited by Camquin - 25 Jan 2021 at 16:33