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Posted: 23 Apr 2021 at 10:54

So very true Gerg he can take it as well as dish it out.

Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!

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Posted: 23 Apr 2021 at 08:31

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To be honest I saw the Farrell tackle at the time, knew that it was high (above shoulder height) and thought the Ref will do nothing with that one - based on who it was that delivered the tackle and that this was relatively early into the game. The actual outcome if televised and went for review would have been a red card - and the outcome of the game would have been significantly different. But as previously alluded to, on other discussions over the years, the big boys do seem to get preferential treatment.

Ce la vie we move on to the next game.

Plus for being a little bitty guy, Sam Olver is hard as nails.

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Posted: 23 Apr 2021 at 07:36

To be honest I saw the Farrell tackle at the time, knew that it was high (above shoulder height) and thought the Ref will do nothing with that one - based on who it was that delivered the tackle and that this was relatively early into the game. The actual outcome if televised and went for review would have been a red card - and the outcome of the game would have been significantly different. But as previously alluded to, on other discussions over the years, the big boys do seem to get preferential treatment.

Ce la vie we move on to the next game.

Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 18:48

Thanks for the "plane" explanations.

And a special thanks to No 7 for his very logical suggestion that when a substitute who is on the bench is yellow carded, the captain of the team should sacrifice a playing member to be sin-binned. Won't happen though, even though it makes perfect sense.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 18:38

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Thanks to everyone who has contributed their input to the tap back into play issue, especially Rob C who I think the last option he listed might be the relevant one, although I am not sure what the "plane of touch" means.

But I am still uncertain about how an off the field substitute who gets yellow carded penalises the substitute's team apart from that substitute will now most probably not be used. Is that the extent of the punishment?

I would take that to mean an imaginary line rising perpendicular to the touchline.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 18:22

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Outcome of Apakuki Ma'afu's disciplinary hearing has now been released...

Thanks - I actually went to the England website to see if Owen Farrell was getting written up for the horrible headshot on Sam Olver, and realized that there was nothing on the red card yet. These write ups are very informative and transparent. I hope Dean Hammond recovers fully.

Dont think anything is happening with that Farrell tackle on Olver

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 18:18

In a scrum the ref should identify who offended and card them personally.

The plane of touch is the plane rising vertically from the touchline.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 18:11

Surely that should be team yellow card and player from the field should be yellow carded. This is similiar to yellow given on scrum infringements a card is given and I assume the captain allocates a player to leave the field.

Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 18:01

Thanks to everyone who has contributed their input to the tap back into play issue, especially Rob C who I think the last option he listed might be the relevant one, although I am not sure what the "plane of touch" means.

But I am still uncertain about how an off the field substitute who gets yellow carded penalises the substitute's team apart from that substitute will now most probably not be used. Is that the extent of the punishment?

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 17:09

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Outcome of Apakuki Ma'afu's disciplinary hearing has now been released...

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 15:44

Outcome of Apakuki Ma'afu's disciplinary hearing has now been released...

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 13:10

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There was a red card in the Ealing match, but I am yet to see any disciplinary outcome. Is this not mandatory?

The hearing for the red card and a related matter was held on Tuesday.

Thanks CC - I checked the RFU site, and hadn't seen any outcome on there.

It often takes a while for the RFU to update these things but out of respect for the individual concerned its better imo to await the formal release of the result.

Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 11:44

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gerg_861 wrote:

There was a red card in the Ealing match, but I am yet to see any disciplinary outcome. Is this not mandatory?

The hearing for the red card and a related matter was held on Tuesday.

Thanks CC - I checked the RFU site, and hadn't seen any outcome on there.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 11:36

gerg_861 wrote:

There was a red card in the Ealing match, but I am yet to see any disciplinary outcome. Is this not mandatory?

The hearing for the red card and a related matter was held on Tuesday.

Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 11:15

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If you want to watch the highlights of the game between Ampthill and Hartpury go to the following link:

https://www.ampthillrufc.com/

Unfortunately it does not show the catch outside touch incident but it it does show the sub being yellow carded.

Apart from that it is pure entertainment.

The ball is not in touch or touch-in-goal if:

The ball reaches the plane of touch but is caught, knocked or kicked by a player who is in the playing area.
A player jumps, from within or outside the playing area, and catches the ball, and then lands in the playing area, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
A player jumps from the playing area and knocks (or catches and releases) the ball back into the playing area, before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, regardless of whether the ball reached the plane of touch.
A player, who is in touch, kicks or knocks the ball, but does not hold it, provided it has not reached the plane of touch.

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Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 10:43

There was a red card in the Ealing match, but I am yet to see any disciplinary outcome. Is this not mandatory?

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Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 19:31

If you want to watch the highlights of the game between Ampthill and Hartpury go to the following link:

https://www.ampthillrufc.com/

Unfortunately it does not show the catch outside touch incident but it it does show the sub being yellow carded.

Apart from that it is pure entertainment.

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Posted: 20 Apr 2021 at 18:51

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There's an easy question in there - no touch should have been given, ref right to carry on with play. (assuming your facts are correct) The law in Rugby is very different from that in football.

On another point - perhaps Donny have had Eddie down for a secret coaching session to make sure they get rid of the ball as we all know now it's the team without the ball that wins games! 😂😂

I thought the rule had changed so that a player starting outside the field of play had to jump, catch the ball (not tap back in) and land in the field of play to prevent touch?

RAID ON

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Posted: 19 Apr 2021 at 12:49

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If a player jumps and knocks the ball back into the playing area (or if that player catches the ball and throws it back into the playing area) before landing in touch or touch-in-goal, play continues regardless of whether the ball reaches the plane of touch

Not now. He must land back in the field of play.

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