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kempstonblue
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As I recall the Championship is an RFU competition (isn’t it referred to as RFU Championship). Which was sold to clubs at the time as a new, professional restart to the league.
Even if the clubs wanted to exercise full control, would the powers in charge cut them off from the league? |
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Halliford
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Dont blame the RFU, it’s as much I decision among the Championship Clubs. Steve Lloyd doesn’t seem to have the control that Geoff Irvine did. Why does the RFU have to form a working group! Because the Clubs can’t sort it out themselves.
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marigold
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TB not sure the RFU had any choice but to let the season happen with 11 given Nat 1 did not play last season. I hope over the next 1-3 years they increase the Championship to 14. 26 meaningful league matches far better for players/spectators than meaningless cup competition. The teams who come up into the league will be part time as are the majority of the league currently and I am sure they will be competitive.
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Thatbloke
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You mean they've actually got "plans" - please share. It's a nonsense to let the 2nd tier go ahead with only 11 clubs meaning loss of both action and revenue. 12 or 14 just do it without having to check what the cleaner and bar staff have to say in every corner of the universe
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kempstonblue
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Knowing the RFU Muppets I am surprised they haven’t written to RFL Championship clubs telling them the plans for 2022/23 season.
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Thatbloke
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Yes I am aware the RFL do a lot of tinkering but it's generally sorted out before the start of any new season. There IS an issue at the moment as to whether Leigh will be relegated. Due to Covid cancellations Leigh have played Wigan, StHelens, Warrington on multiple occasions (all top clubs) and have played far fewer against the lower ranked sides so it has been a skewed season that has worked against them, hence the discussion.
Can you imagine the FA saying in August - "not sure how many Champions League spots there'll be, we might reduce/increase the number of clubs in the Prem, Championship and EFL 1 & 2 but we'll let you know in April"
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WEvans
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Then why isn't any re-structuring based on this taking place for the start of the 2023-24 season? Silly question obviously as the answer is it's being organised by the RFU.
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billesleyexile
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coughs quietly, let me introduce you to the RFL....
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keep the faith
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Thatbloke
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With respect - not a lot of use at the end of the season or in January for that matter! I can't think of any other sporting body that leaves its member clubs dangling in uncertainty to carry on playing treated with total disregard effectively not knowing where they have to try and finish to meet their objectives
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Halliford
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The Working Group reports in January 2022. Then their recommendation will go through the RFU Committee structure to the Council and be announced at some stage, hopefully before the end of the season.
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Thunderbird
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Those in power have to justify their existence. Oh and their big pension pot.
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Stalwart
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Well put, that's it in a nutshell.
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Thatbloke
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I haven't spoken to anyone who thinks 14 teams per league isn't the way to go so why the delay. We've had years of supposed "wide-ranging consultations" so just make an effin decision so everyone knows where they stand (Oh sorry we all know that anyway don't we - a nuisance and an irrelevance!)
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ParkBench
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Does anyone know if going to 14 has finally been laid out as the plan to be voted on in January 2022? Is it a best guess or has anyone seen a paper / proposal? I can't find anything concrete online.
It seems mad that National 1 teams haven't been formally notified what the prize is in terms of number of teams going up, if any. Not knowing how much any promotion might be worth is of lesser importance given how much the figure has come down in recent years. 14 teams per league across the top 4 tiers would nicely balance the pyramid and help entrench the set playing weekends.
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Camquin
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All the fixed costs, like ground maintenance, do not get halved. Income was presumably much below half.
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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Cherub
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True. But they then had to pay for all the additional COVID-19 costs. |
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Raider999
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I agree, 14 teams would fall in line with all the top levels. Bin the cup nobody takes it seriously anyway. |
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Raider999
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Yes, but don't forget they only played half a season. |
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workerbee
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Who would pay for the cost of opening Twickenham. Playing more games against the same opposition would be counter productive especially for the teams at the lower end of the league. However to avoid a meaningless cup competition I would suggest a 14 team league.
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Camquin
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One solution is keep the number of teams low but to play every other team three times.
Perhaps with one round as a festival at a central venue like Twickers with five games over a weekend. So with ten teams you would get 13 away, 13 at home and one neutral game. It is patently better than having a cup and playing some sides four times - but the fans know those games do not count. |
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Sweeney Delenda Est
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