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Originally posted by Kentishman Kentishman wrote:

Westcombe Ranger Saturday must have been a sad day for you as a club member? It certainly was for me (as a former member) to see a group of 18 players, all of whom on good money, perform like that. Please tell us how RL can justify his huge salary and the players their fees? There was no structure, no game plan and when I spoke to one of the coaches he said as much regarding training. I'm pleased to have moved my allegiance to a club who do things for the good of the whole community and not just for the ego of a few!  
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Sorry Westcombe Park Ranger - bit slow off the mark!
The answer to your question is yes there were 5 changes from our starting XV v Hertford. Its mentioned in our match report. I believe they were largely due to some unavailability/injuries the previous week. Would we have got closer to Hertford? We'll never know. C'est la vie and we move on hoping that CS have sorted their front row problems.
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Westcombe Ranger Saturday must have been a sad day for you as a club member? It certainly was for me (as a former member) to see a group of 18 players, all of whom on good money, perform like that. Please tell us how RL can justify his huge salary and the players their fees? There was no structure, no game plan and when I spoke to one of the coaches he said as much regarding training. I'm pleased to have moved my allegiance to a club who do things for the good of the whole community and not just for the ego of a few!  
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Originally posted by Ancient Oak Ancient Oak wrote:

My mood has improved considerably after chalking up a W against our local rivals Combe!

Am I correct in saying your starting XV was a lot different from the previous game v Hertford ?
And just in case you ask...................I agree we were well beaten despite the small winning margin. LOL


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Originally posted by Lord_Kitchener Lord_Kitchener wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Lord_Kitchener Lord_Kitchener wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Any confirmation on the Tring situation?

Dorking 5
Tring -5

I know that. I meant on the foot and mouth thing. Is it confirmed that that was the reason why it got cancelled? 

Yes.

To add, there is a process to follow. The League Sec followed this and  the guidance as per the regulations.

Tring have appealed.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Originally posted by Lord_Kitchener Lord_Kitchener wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Any confirmation on the Tring situation?

Dorking 5
Tring -5

I know that. I meant on the foot and mouth thing. Is it confirmed that that was the reason why it got cancelled? 

Yes.

To add, there is a process to follow. The League Sec followed this and  the guidance as per the regulations.
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Originally posted by Lord_Kitchener Lord_Kitchener wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Any confirmation on the Tring situation?

Dorking 5
Tring -5

I know that. I meant on the foot and mouth thing. Is it confirmed that that was the reason why it got cancelled? 
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No problems, Carlos. Felt I couldnt quite let it go unchallenged. We love your club and the welcome we get there and look forward to your return visit to The Paddock when I will try to seek you out and buy you a pint.
My mood has improved considerably after chalking up a W against our local rivals Combe!
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Hi Ancientoak.

I didn't mean to be rude about 7oaks. The view from the balcony was that we gave away 2 quite soft tries by gifting up possession and forgetting how to tackle.

It could of course have been influenced by lunch.  Smile
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Brighton 15 - 17 Havant
Dorking HWO Tring
North Walsham 14 - 17 Hertford
Sevenoaks 18 - 7 Westcombe Park
Sutton & Epsom HWO CS Stags 1863
Tunbridge Wells 27 - 36 Sidcup
Wimbledon 29 - 7 Maidenhead
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

Any confirmation on the Tring situation?

Dorking 5
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Any confirmation on the Tring situation?
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As we only have 5 games this weekend there will be no bonus for getting them all correct

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Fair enough. Hope all the boys at Tring get better soon.
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Originally posted by FEZ ANT PLUCKER FEZ ANT PLUCKER wrote:

FWIW. Would the outcome have been different if the withdrawal had been for Covid positive tests? I sympathise with Tring as Hand, Foot and Mouth is very contagious (my son had it a few seasons ago) and its very painful and debilitating. More to the point it could have spread to Wimbledon players last week. Can anyone from Tring enlighten us a bit more as to their optimism for future games. Appaarently it is contagious for 10-12 days.
Fortunately Dorking,s lunch will still go ahead as our 2,s and 3,s have home fixtures.Thumbs Up 

It seems that under Regulation 22.5-6, it grants the LSE RFU discretion on what to do.

5. Non-Fulfilment of Matches: In the event that a match has been postponed, cancelled or abandoned due to Covid-19 related reasons, the relevant provisions within the applicable regulations will apply save that in addition to such provisions, the Organising Committee/Tournament Organiser must be provided with a signed Covid-19 Declaration and such other information, documentation and reports as the Organising Committee/Tournament Organiser may request in order to determine if any sanction is applicable. 

6. All Covid-19 related postponements, cancellations, rearrangements, abandonments and non-fulfilled fixtures will be referred to the relevant Organising Committee who will have the power to determine the consequences of such including (without limitation) whether the match should proceed, be reversed, rearranged, replayed or cancelled. In addition, the Organising Committee will have the power, in its absolute Effective as of 1 August 2021 discretion, to determine the further consequences of such non-fulfilment including (without limitation) allocation of points in respect of that match, which club(s) will be permitted to progress to the next stage of any relevant competition, the power to award costs or apply such other sanction as the Organising Committee considers appropriate. 


Due diligence would suggest that the LSE RFU would request and require evidence of a positive test to discourage any club from trying to use this as an excuse. Personally I do hope Tring appeal that deduction because clearly that regulation 13.6 was written to discourage clubs crying off because a prop had the sniffles, not for an outbreak of a known contagious disease.


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Just for the record, there are no Tring teams playing today,the 3rds played last night,but currently have no  contact with the 1s sqaud during training.
It really was from the 22....
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I do sympathise with Tring, although it appears that other Tring teams are playing today. This season is going to be very different from all others. Covid is a challenge. Player availability is also a challenge. It seems that there is no relegation this season. Would/could Tring have fielded a weakened team and avoided a 5 point deduction if relegation had been in place? The integrity of this league is now in doubt, if teams as early as week 2 can just decide not to appear.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ancient Oak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 11:22
My leaving this to the 11th hour makes it rather a pointless exercise in the light of events. I would have given Dorking and Sutton and Epsom the win anyway so here are my predictions for what they are worth

Brighton  1 Havant  5
Dorking  5 Tring    0
N Walsham 1 Hertford 4
Sevenoaks  4  W Park  0
Sutton & Epsom 5 CS Stags 0
T Wells 4 Sidcup 0
Wimbledon 4 Maidenhead 1

Just for the record Oaks did score 2 quite decent tries against Hertford!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FEZ ANT PLUCKER Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2021 at 10:57
FWIW. Would the outcome have been different if the withdrawal had been for Covid positive tests? I sympathise with Tring as Hand, Foot and Mouth is very contagious (my son had it a few seasons ago) and its very painful and debilitating. More to the point it could have spread to Wimbledon players last week. Can anyone from Tring enlighten us a bit more as to their optimism for future games. Appaarently it is contagious for 10-12 days.
Fortunately Dorking,s lunch will still go ahead as our 2,s and 3,s have home fixtures.Thumbs Up 
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