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Mark W-J
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Yet that's what lots of people want - the opportunity to test themselves against teams from a higher level and a good day out, regardless of the outcome.
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Camquin
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The whole point of the current restructure was to decrease the number of games - and that meant the 14 team leagues did not have a cup. The lower level league, with 12 sides, do have cups - even though that means more games and travel than before - but let's not mention that. Cups, unless only within one level, also mean mismatches.
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dropout22
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Do like an idea of some form of British & Irish Cup format - just as it adds something difference to the usual domestic games we play.
I would support a ProD2 vs Champ competition as i would a Prem A vs Champ set-up - think it would benefit alot of clubs as i'd imagine gates for this would be at least on par with league attendances. In the future i'd like to see a sort of RFU Cup competition throughout the levels like football - RFU Cup (Levels 1 & 2) - RFU Trophy (Level 3 & 4) - RFU Shield (Level 5) - RFU Bowl (Level 6) Would probably add abit of excitment/financial benefit to the clubs partaking also. |
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Member728
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I like the idea of a cup competition including the Championship clubs and French D2 clubs but it is quite impractical - the travel/accommodation costs alone mean that it is a non starter.
not for Jersey
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Greg
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I like the idea of a cup competition including the Championship clubs and French D2 clubs but it is quite impractical - the travel/accommodation costs alone mean that it is a non starter.
Create a Championship league of 14 clubs and include promotion and relegation (1 or 2 up and down each season). Easy-peasy!
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kempstonblue
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Going back to cup formats.
Our local BBC station covers five football teams from Prem League to League Two. Last week international break allowed for commentary of Ampthill v Bedford, and the non league football as they call it, Boreham Wood. Today Boreham Wood travel 5 miles to local rivals Barnet in the FA Cup. Knockout football. Rugby League has Challenge Cup. Yet the best team sport…looks second rate regards cup competitions in England. A knockout format is always my preference, upsets in rugby are rare. The only question, would a cup mean a 14 team Championship. I also have not worked out how to reduce 70 clubs, if we include National 1, and three National 2 leagues into a competition. But I have the weekend and some A4 paper…laughs.
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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corporalcarrot
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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The Blues
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14 teams otherwise you create more leagues within the leagues with 16. There used to be 3 to 4 leagues within the league. Currently it’s all pretty competitive.
I have said this many times before when we were 16, Blues would have youngsters from the academy mixed up with some 1st and 2nd choice and still win with 60 odd points. These games were not as well supported as everyone knew the result and it was a question of how many. If we go to 14 it should be either 2 down or 1 down and play off for 13th v 2nd.
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Raider999
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I have no issue at all with the championship, apart from the fact it should have made a decision about next seasons format before this season started. Teams in N1 and N2 are well into their season not knowing how many teams will be promoted at the end of the season. Even the RFU are not that incompetent! |
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Whistle watcher
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kempstonblue
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Whilst French teams might be above us in playing standards, I assume a gulf exists between Championship and Italy Top 10?
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Kimbo
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Good luck with that.
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castleparknight
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Raider I have no misconceptions about what the championship is - the teams in this league have no rights to demand anything other than what has been agreed. The Nat 1 teams are primarily all very strong and many would do well at this level.
16/14 teams makes no difference just getting a league that is suitable and sustainable. Don’t think that is too much to ask. Maybe you should look through impartial eyes occasionally rather than with whatever issue you have with this league. It is rugby and I believe we all want what is best for the game
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Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Cherub
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A 14 team Championship league would be my choice too. Definitely no cup competition unless it was a straight knockout competition between the top 64 clubs from the Championship downwards, similar to football’s FA Cup. This would mean 26 league games and a possible 6 additional cup games for a few clubs.
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Raider999
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All leagues below and above the championship will be 14 teams - why should the championship be any different. This would mean the champions going into the Premiership and the top 4 N1 sides being promoted to the championship. So simple even the RFU could organise it so what is the Championship sides problems. I cannot see the problem - if the Championship sides think they are that much better than the top 4 in N1 then they should never be in the relegation zone. Smacks of arrogance in my book, especially when you consider Doncaster, Coventry, Ampthill and Hartpury were in N1 not that long ago. I suspect the top 4 N1 sides would be competitive, after all they are likely to strengthen their current sides. Edited by Raider999 - 14 Oct 2021 at 19:30 |
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Westcoaster
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14 team league and NO Cup competition would be my choice.
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Come on Jersey........
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Kimbo
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I appear to have posted my thoughts (thinking stuff through while composing) at much the same time, and broadky in agreement.
Maybe I miscounted (was doing it roughly, in my head, so could well be) but 38 weeks makes the argument even stronger if that's the case (Further, I now note the Prem season finishes on the first weekend of June this year).
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Kimbo
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30 matches per season isn't exactly cramming into 36 weekends is it? (35 even if you take out Christmas weekend, which I know a lot of folk would like to keep). How many postponements do we get these days? Not that many, surely? Supporters want real, competetive, meaningful, matches, against teams they haven't already seen two, three, four times already. The argument re. diluting the RFU handout has largely gone away too, now.
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Camquin
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If you play into May there are 38 weeks. Nat 1 worked well with 16 teams and stopping at the end of April. I doubt there would be many cricket scores - Ampthill and Richmond were not running them up in their last seasons in National 1, even against the sides that would be left out. It is not as though the promoted sides would not use whatever extra funding came with promotion to recruit. I admit that an Ealing A side beat Rosslyn Park in the pre-Season, but I would think they might beat several of the Championship sides.
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Brizzer
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That would be my preference as a starter. |
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