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Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

The ref has been shocking 

I thought Sir was ok & certainly didn’t feel his decisions especially favoured one side over t’other. Donny need to look at themselves - when the ref awards at least 15, perhaps as many as 20 penalties against your opponents & sends 3 of them to the bin, & yet you can only manage one score in 80 minutes, you are under-performing, albeit that Pirates deserve great credit for both their defence & ability to take scoring chances…

Felt the stream was decent value for 7 quid…
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

The ref has been shocking 

I thought Sir was ok & certainly didn’t feel his decisions especially favoured one side over t’other. Donny need to look at themselves - when the ref awards at least 15, perhaps as many as 20 penalties against your opponents & sends 3 of them to the bin, & yet you can only manage one score in 80 minutes, you are under-performing, albeit that Pirates deserve great credit for both their defence & ability to take scoring chances…

Felt the stream was decent value for 7 quid…

Do you know what, you’re right. Donny just made far too many basic errors. I enjoyed the stream. I actually had it on without the commentary. The picture quality and camera angles were excellent. It definitely was worth buying, albeit my enjoyment was slightly dulled by Donny’s performance!. The first 20 minutes was where we lost that game, just nowhere near clinical enough. 2 man advantage and all the territory and yet only one try. I thought we really lacked any attacking rhythm today. Even with two men less early on Pirates were comfortable in defence. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote castleparknight Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2021 at 16:37
We were shocking - Pirates deserve the win - we have a lot of questions to answer about why we didn’t perform in any area - 29 unanswered points…..? Only us to blame
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The ref was dreadful and completely inconsistent. No one could work out what the second yellow card early in the first half was for.
A succession of penalties given away by Donny in Naughty Boys Corner late in the first half yet no cards. In the second half, in the same corner, Caleb Montgomery carded after being on the field for less than a minute, for a first offence at a line out and mall.
Head high tackle on Pirate runner late in second half led to penalty but no conversation with offender, contrasting with early first half yellow for Kiri Kiri for the same offence.
I’d be interested to see what the officials’ observer thought.
I thought Donny were very disappointing after their heroics of last week and it was, in the end, a comfortable five pointer for us.
Great to see our captain Nico de Battista back for his first appearance of the season after a lengthy injury.


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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

The ref was dreadful and completely inconsistent. No one could work out what the second yellow card early in the first half was for.
A succession of penalties given away by Donny in Naughty Boys Corner late in the first half yet no cards. In the second half, in the same corner, Caleb Montgomery carded after being on the field for less than a minute, for a first offence at a line out and mall.
Head high tackle on Pirate runner late in second half led to penalty but no conversation with offender, contrasting with early first half yellow for Kiri Kiri for the same offence.
I’d be interested to see what the officials’ observer thought.
I thought Donny were very disappointing after their heroics of last week and it was, in the end, a comfortable five pointer for us.
Great to see our captain Nico de Battista back for his first appearance of the season after a lengthy injury.

The succession of penalties given up by Donny late in 1st half was punished by a YC to DK scrum-half…
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So it was , my mistake. Doesn’t obviate the comparison with the speed of Montgomery’s card though.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

The ref has been shocking 

I thought Sir was ok & certainly didn’t feel his decisions especially favoured one side over t’other. Donny need to look at themselves - when the ref awards at least 15, perhaps as many as 20 penalties against your opponents & sends 3 of them to the bin, & yet you can only manage one score in 80 minutes, you are under-performing, albeit that Pirates deserve great credit for both their defence & ability to take scoring chances…

Felt the stream was decent value for 7 quid…
Fully agree with all of this imo the ref was generally clear in his decision making and always impartial.. These two teams are still the most likely to make Ealing work hard for promotion but the penalty count was frankly woeful for both sides. Indiscipline was a huge factor in Pirates defeat at St Peter but in the second half with that wind in their backs Donny didn't have the forwards or game plan to turn that indiscipline into points. Stream quality was excellent for £7 but happy to pay a few quid more if they could upgrade the commentary.
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

The ref has been shocking 


I thought Sir was ok & certainly didn’t feel his decisions especially favoured one side over t’other. Donny need to look at themselves - when the ref awards at least 15, perhaps as many as 20 penalties against your opponents & sends 3 of them to the bin, & yet you can only manage one score in 80 minutes, you are under-performing, albeit that Pirates deserve great credit for both their defence & ability to take scoring chances…

Felt the stream was decent value for 7 quid…
Fully agree with all of this imo the ref was generally clear in his decision making and always impartial.. These two teams are still the most likely to make Ealing work hard for promotion but the penalty count was frankly woeful for both sides. Indiscipline was a huge factor in Pirates defeat at St Peter but in the second half with that wind in their backs Donny didn't have the forwards or game plan to turn that indiscipline into points. Stream quality was excellent for £7 but happy to pay a few quid more if they could upgrade the commentary.

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P.S. the second yellow card was for a head high tackle - unfortunately the guy who was carded was the second tackler so the tackled player was on his way down. It was the correct decision as it was still the tacklers responsibility to be safe in the tackle.

I do not think any of the YC decisions were wrong - the Donny scrum half got the team penalty card
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So head high tackles are an immediate yellow card except for the Donny high tackle late in the second half, penalised but no card?
Come on!
I’m not having a go at the Knights, I’m persisting in the view that the ref was inconsistent, as well as highly intolerant at the breakdown.
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I wasn't impressed by the officiating, but you have to try to manage it somehow. I don't think I've ever seen a team concede 21 penalties and three yellow cards but keep the opposition down to one try and win with a BP. 
The Pirates forwards were brilliant and the defence was rock solid. The, when a bit of space opened up the backs began to show what they can do. This team is coming together nicely.
I reckon the Donny guys suffered, especially in the second half, from their massive efforts last week and understandably ran out of steam a bit.
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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

So head high tackles are an immediate yellow card except for the Donny high tackle late in the second half, penalised but no card?
Come on!
I’m not having a go at the Knights, I’m persisting in the view that the ref was inconsistent, as well as highly intolerant at the breakdown.
I understand what you are saying but the impacts and points of contact I think were why the calls were made differently. The Cornish card was a shoulder to the front side of the head (close to square in the face) the Donny was high and from behind and an arm. Not sure if that influenced things. TBH if he carded him I would have thought ok fair enough 
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I hate to say I told you so in my prediction of Cov to win 4-1 ! Wounded Cov responded  magnificently to Rowland Winter's comments after London Scottish.
In may not have been for the purist, but with 4 yellow cards to Bedford's 1, to keep them out when down to 13 men was a monumental effort & just reward at the final whistle.
I will be interested to read Bedford's match report.Emoticons

It was basically we couldn’t take our chances, which sounded like it was down to your defence, I’d expect us to score at least a couple of tries against 13. Most common theme was the number of penalties we gave away, and can I be absolutely clear, I’m not blaming the officials, and I wasn’t there so can’t give my own opinion (too cold, so I decided not to travel). The players who were interviewed after were really disappointed with their performance and the number of pens they gave up.
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Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by Cov kid 42 Cov kid 42 wrote:

I hate to say I told you so in my prediction of Cov to win 4-1 ! Wounded Cov responded  magnificently to Rowland Winter's comments after London Scottish.
In may not have been for the purist, but with 4 yellow cards to Bedford's 1, to keep them out when down to 13 men was a monumental effort & just reward at the final whistle.
I will be interested to read Bedford's match report.Emoticons

It was basically we couldn’t take our chances, which sounded like it was down to your defence, I’d expect us to score at least a couple of tries against 13. Most common theme was the number of penalties we gave away, and can I be absolutely clear, I’m not blaming the officials, and I wasn’t there so can’t give my own opinion (too cold, so I decided not to travel). The players who were interviewed after were really disappointed with their performance and the number of pens they gave up.
Im fairly sure that John (Cov Kid 42) knows the story of the game quite well, being at the game, and doing the commentary for the BBC and all.
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Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by Cov kid 42 Cov kid 42 wrote:

I hate to say I told you so in my prediction of Cov to win 4-1 ! Wounded Cov responded  magnificently to Rowland Winter's comments after London Scottish.
In may not have been for the purist, but with 4 yellow cards to Bedford's 1, to keep them out when down to 13 men was a monumental effort & just reward at the final whistle.
I will be interested to read Bedford's match report.Emoticons

It was basically we couldn’t take our chances, which sounded like it was down to your defence, I’d expect us to score at least a couple of tries against 13. Most common theme was the number of penalties we gave away, and can I be absolutely clear, I’m not blaming the officials, and I wasn’t there so can’t give my own opinion (too cold, so I decided not to travel). The players who were interviewed after were really disappointed with their performance and the number of pens they gave up.

Having actually been at the game I can tell you that Cov probably had more chances with the line in sight than Bedford.  But for last ditch tackles from both defences, the score could well have been in the 30s for both sides.
As for the penalties, sometimes these are down to opposition pressure you know...
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Originally posted by RobC RobC wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by Cov kid 42 Cov kid 42 wrote:

I hate to say I told you so in my prediction of Cov to win 4-1 ! Wounded Cov responded  magnificently to Rowland Winter's comments after London Scottish.
In may not have been for the purist, but with 4 yellow cards to Bedford's 1, to keep them out when down to 13 men was a monumental effort & just reward at the final whistle.
I will be interested to read Bedford's match report.Emoticons

It was basically we couldn’t take our chances, which sounded like it was down to your defence, I’d expect us to score at least a couple of tries against 13. Most common theme was the number of penalties we gave away, and can I be absolutely clear, I’m not blaming the officials, and I wasn’t there so can’t give my own opinion (too cold, so I decided not to travel). The players who were interviewed after were really disappointed with their performance and the number of pens they gave up.

Having actually been at the game I can tell you that Cov probably had more chances with the line in sight than Bedford.  But for last ditch tackles from both defences, the score could well have been in the 30s for both sides.
As for the penalties, sometimes these are down to opposition pressure you know...

Like I said, down to your defence, boy it’s hard to compliment people sometimes 😂
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Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by RobC RobC wrote:

Originally posted by Bigbluepip Bigbluepip wrote:

Originally posted by Cov kid 42 Cov kid 42 wrote:

I hate to say I told you so in my prediction of Cov to win 4-1 ! Wounded Cov responded  magnificently to Rowland Winter's comments after London Scottish.
In may not have been for the purist, but with 4 yellow cards to Bedford's 1, to keep them out when down to 13 men was a monumental effort & just reward at the final whistle.
I will be interested to read Bedford's match report.Emoticons

It was basically we couldn’t take our chances, which sounded like it was down to your defence, I’d expect us to score at least a couple of tries against 13. Most common theme was the number of penalties we gave away, and can I be absolutely clear, I’m not blaming the officials, and I wasn’t there so can’t give my own opinion (too cold, so I decided not to travel). The players who were interviewed after were really disappointed with their performance and the number of pens they gave up.

Having actually been at the game I can tell you that Cov probably had more chances with the line in sight than Bedford.  But for last ditch tackles from both defences, the score could well have been in the 30s for both sides.
As for the penalties, sometimes these are down to opposition pressure you know...

Like I said, down to your defence, boy it’s hard to compliment people sometimes 😂

I appreciate the compliment - I was kind of returning it with reference to the defence of both sides.  It's just a bit of a bug bear of mine when supporters, coaches etc talk about penalties being 'given away' as though the opposition had nothing to do with it.
Both sides will play better and I'm sure it will be a different story at G.R.  I hope to be there - no matter the weather... Wink
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