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Well potentially all the top four on 64.

Great season.


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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

No hidden motives in my post WR. 
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Nor from me I just thought yours was a good reference point for me to air my opinions. I did understand where you were coming from and also wished to expand a little by referencing other banana skins.
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No hidden motives in my post WR. 
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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

Westcombe Park the kingmakers?
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Taking your post at face value where the Kings are to be the champions I personally don't think that we are capable of an upset away at either Dorking or North Walsham so the answer is an emphatic NO. We could be described as potential banana skins though. 
Whoever of the top 4 is eventually crowned, will be decided by their results against the other 3 plus Wimbledon who may well end up being the Kingmakers. 
Havant and Tring also deserve to be respected as potential Banana skins. 




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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

Westcombe Park the kingmakers?

I had a quick look at their record and the win against Wimbledon was the only one they have had against a side above them in the League, so the jury may be out on how much they have improved? . They have also only had only one win away from home. (i love the stats on the RFU for this stuffThumbs Up)

I guess we will see on Saturday at the Big Field which is forecast to be a cold but clear day

One thing is for sure that there is plenty to come in this league and the standard has been really high in the games i have seen. Far better than some of the stuff on TV and oh so much better without the video ref!
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Originally posted by Kentish Man Kentish Man wrote:

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BTW Dorking have Wimbledon at Home 

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Originally posted by carlos fandango carlos fandango wrote:

Westcombe Park the kingmakers?

Good result for WP Saturday, must have improved a lot from earlier in the season
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Shamrose 
BTW Dorking have Wimbledon at Home 
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Westcombe Park the kingmakers?
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Just updating this thread as we now have a group of 4 with some daylight between them and the rest of the top half of the table plus North Walsham have a game in hand

Dorking 63
Hertford 59
Sevenoaks 59
North Walsham 55
Wimbledon 47
Havant 45
Westcombe Park 38

The top four play the other top half teams as over the rest of the season as follows 

Dorking have Westcombe Park (H) Havant (H), Sevenoaks (H) and North Walsham (A) and Wimbledon (A)

Hertford have North Walsham (H) Westcombe Park (A), Havant (A) and Sevenoaks (A)

Sevenoaks have Westcombe Park (A) , North Walsham (A), Wimbledon (H), Dorking (A) and Hertford (H) 

North Walsham (with a game in hand) have Havant (H), Hertford (A), Westcombe Park (H), Sevenoaks (H), Wimbledon (A) and Dorking (H) 

North Walsham look to have the hardest run in as they still have to play all top half teams whereas Hertford only have 4 but have 3 of those away. 

It is going to go right to the end of the season 
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Hi Shamrose,
                    Happy New Year to you and all posters, I hope most teams are planning to play this weekend and look forward to the predictions are a long layoff.
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Interestingly, the top 5 each have 2 home and 2 away games against their rivals. 
Dorking (1) are away to Hertford (2) and North Walsham (3)
Hertford (2) are away to 7Oaks (4) and Wimbledon (5)
North Walsham (3) are away to Hertford (2) and Wimbledon (5)
7 Oaks (4) are away to Dorking (1) and North Walsham (3)
Wimbledon (5) are away to Dorking (1) and 7Oaks (4).
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I will leave others to read into the different scenarios that could unfold, or summise who has the (perceived) easier games. 
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From a Wimbledon perspective I am pretty happy with how we have been playing other than losing at S&E! It’s losses like that that mean you miss out at end of season (remembers a loss at Sevenoaks in Jan 2020 😕). We have had 4 or 5 front row injuries which mean our set piece is less competitive than in September but the replacements have all stepped up. I missed the game v Dorking on Saturday but heard it was a cracker and our players did us proud. We have had a few disciplinary issues (2 red cards) which we have to stamp out.
I think that on our day we can beat anyone in this league so I have to be hopeful that we will keep in there to the end. Big game against Hertford in 8 January and I hope we have a few back for that one.
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I would concur with Fez....I saw most of the WP game up at our place and they weren't that far away for a lot of the game. From what I recall they really struggled in the backs when ours cut loose. Not expecting an easy return match at all.

And frankly all the sniping just makes those doing it look like petty minded children. If my school Year 8's behaved like it I would give them what for. Time some on here grew up.
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Originally posted by SurreyRugby SurreyRugby wrote:

At this point of the season, Westcombe Park cannot be improving too much. They have lost all their games heavily against the Top 5. Their 'so called' improvement has been against the mediocre rest of the league. Throw enough money at it.........and get little or nothing!

SR... I was trying to be fair and reflective of the current state of play. I think WP have shown improved form over past 6 weeks for whatever reason. 4 wins and 2 respectable defeats. The latter 2 defeats away at Havant 20-18 and at Hertford 34-22. I recall our very close game at Havant. They are decent losing scorelines, so I do think they have improved a lot since the season started. My point of view was that they could influence the outcome of the next 5 games for the top 5 teams. Trying to be dispassionate without my rose tinted Dorking specs. 
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Originally posted by HAVANT TONY HAVANT TONY wrote:

Originally posted by SurreyRugby SurreyRugby wrote:

At this point of the season, Westcombe Park cannot be improving too much. They have lost all their games heavily against the Top 5. Their 'so called' improvement has been against the mediocre rest of the league. Throw enough money at it.........and get little or nothing!

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Originally posted by SurreyRugby SurreyRugby wrote:

At this point of the season, Westcombe Park cannot be improving too much. They have lost all their games heavily against the Top 5. Their 'so called' improvement has been against the mediocre rest of the league. Throw enough money at it.........and get little or nothing!

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I haven't read anyone so far stating WP have greatly improved as you appear to be alluding to, but if so, we at WP are not talking ourselves up. It's halfway, so the league placings do not lie at this stage.
I have seen an improvement since week 6, and it is down to a few factors not just the tweaking of the coaching set up (reference to Scrumtime's informative post). In case you have forgotten we were one of three newly promoted teams into this (much higher standard) league. 
Not sure how others (those outside of the current elite top 5) will view your description of them as 'Mediocre'. Quite unwise in my view to provide teams with a ready made pre-match teamtalk.
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Scrumtime- You seem to be well-versed with all things going on within Metropolitan Kent, and as I know you're local, why not pop in to see us sometime and meet some old friends. 
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Back on Topic, I can't see past Dorking for top spot, after that it depends on fixtures between the remaining 4 of the top 5. 
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Originally posted by SurreyRugby SurreyRugby wrote:

At this point of the season, Westcombe Park cannot be improving too much. They have lost all their games heavily against the Top 5. Their 'so called' improvement has been against the mediocre rest of the league. Throw enough money at it.........and get little or nothing!

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