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    Posted: 11 Mar 2022 at 13:55
Winter vomiting bug?

England 'optimistic' unwell Maro Itoje will recover for Ireland game
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England v Ireland: Sam Simmonds to start at number eight for hosts

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England: Steward; Malins, Marchant, Slade, Nowell; Smith, Randall; Genge, George, Sinckler, Itoje, Ewels, Lawes (capt), Curry, Simmonds.

Replacements: Blamire, Marler, Stuart, Launchbury, Dombrandt, Youngs, Ford, Daly.
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Tuilagi can't have long left playing now, his hamstring must be shot to pieces for it to keep going like this. 
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It’s so long since I played rugby but I can’t recall anybody being injured training or even warning up before the game. They must be Formula 1 players as opposed to us Ford Cortina in my era.
Talking about moving Henry Slade to 12. 
If he plays 13 that’s it Bring a regular 12 


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We have been waiting on Tuilagi to deliver consistently for more than a decade now. Sanderson of Sale said last week MT is in the best shape of his life. Either that is b****cks or Jones has again broken another player at training. Either way we cannot rely on him ever being consistently fit enough to be a serious part of a world cup or any other campaign-we need to look elsewhere
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Originally posted by CJB1 CJB1 wrote:

Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him
Tuilagi appears to be made of glass.  With his injury record, relying on him for salvation appears ... unwise.
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him

Hamstring. 
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Player base yes vision beyond the boys club from Jones absolutely not.

Still no Radwan - recall May

I half expect he picks curry at 9 as Youngs instead 100% its a absolute shambles- I would love to see Dean Richards at the helm would be a completely different team - firstly they would all want it every te they touched the pitch
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

"Where are they now"
All the discarded English coaches
Andy Farrell Ireland
Mike Catt Ireland
Stuart Lancaster Leinster
Graham Rowntree Munster
You probably realise I'm Irish but all these coaches discarded by England have signed 2 year contracts at least to stay in their jobs. You can't say Ireland Leinster or Munster are playing rubbish at the moment. 
So it wasn't the coaches that was  the problem for England. THE PLAYERS
They are not coming through with the quality they should for a country that has ten times more players than many of the other countries. Under 20's lose to Italy The RFU have no idea what's happening  
Yet they have a World Cup winning coach Sir Clive Woodward as a TV pundit and Daily Mail critic. 
Eddie Jones ,Australian Head coach ,Anthony Seibold Australian ,defence coach all on big money
I've lived in England for 50 years and I do care  
This will probably come back to bite me in the b-m at Twickenham. 


Where are you getting your playing numbers from?

It's a common misconception that England has the most registered players, but in reality they only rank 3rd (382,154 players) behind South Africa (405,438 players) and France (542,242 players).


I personally think England have got the player base and money to be doing a lot better than they have, it's the managers that are holding them back, picking their out of form favourites, not blooding-in new players - looking at you here, Eddie Jones. 
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"Where are they now"
All the discarded English coaches
Andy Farrell Ireland
Mike Catt Ireland
Stuart Lancaster Leinster
Graham Rowntree Munster
You probably realise I'm Irish but all these coaches discarded by England have signed 2 year contracts at least to stay in their jobs. You can't say Ireland Leinster or Munster are playing rubbish at the moment. 
So it wasn't the coaches that was  the problem for England. THE PLAYERS
They are not coming through with the quality they should for a country that has ten times more players than many of the other countries. Under 20's lose to Italy The RFU have no idea what's happening  
Yet they have a World Cup winning coach Sir Clive Woodward as a TV pundit and Daily Mail critic. 
Eddie Jones ,Australian Head coach ,Anthony Seibold Australian ,defence coach all on big money
I've lived in England for 50 years and I do care  
This will probably come back to bite me in the b-m at Twickenham. 
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

Dan Kelly . . improving all the time . . . I would also like to see Muir given an run on the wing


Kelly - possibly, however Muir is a long way down the list of wingers
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him
Tuilagi appears to be made of glass.  With his injury record, relying on him for salvation appears ... unwise.
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Dan Kelly . . improving all the time . . . I would also like to see Muir given an run on the wing
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Originally posted by tulip tulip wrote:

Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him

'all the centres England have to choose from'...

not sure we are quite as well off in the particular position (inside/no12) in question - who else is fit and could play there? I'd like to have seen Atkinson given a go, but Eddie - altho' rating him highly enough to cap him in November - appears reluctant. Slade better at 13 IMHO. Maybe I'm overlooking someone?
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Stephen Jones.  “Tuilagi’s Twickenham return is perfectly timed”
Seriously He has had 1 and half hours rugby and of all the centres England have to choose from they are pinning their hopes on him
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Originally posted by Runitback Runitback wrote:

I dont think Itoje will be made captain, I think Curry will get the job and again he will be the starting 8 which is ridiculous as he is one of the best 7s in the World and we have two world class 8s in the squad!! 

As for Furbank, a strong club player, but I do not see what he brings to the squad  . . players like Lozowski or Malins offer more versatility.

Scotland will be feeling quietly confident as an unstructured game will suit them.


I agree, Curry likely to be captain but should play 7 - especially with Underhill out.

Dombrant at 8 for me with Simmonds on the bench
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I dont think Itoje will be made captain, I think Curry will get the job and again he will be the starting 8 which is ridiculous as he is one of the best 7s in the World and we have two world class 8s in the squad!! 

As for Furbank, a strong club player, but I do not see what he brings to the squad  . . players like Lozowski or Malins offer more versatility.

Scotland will be feeling quietly confident as an unstructured game will suit them.
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Originally posted by castleparknight castleparknight wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Team announced tomorrow. Captain? Have seen George, Itoje & Curry all mentioned, don't believe any backs are in the frame...

Hasn't Itoje been groomed to take on this mantle?

at one stage, yes, then Eddie said in his book he still had development to do, then he said after it was published that MO had developed & therefore might be in frame, who knows?

as one tongue-in-cheek tweet (by @roarzz) I read today said:

I think I speak for all rugby fans the world over when I say I can't wait for Eddie Jones to select George Furbank at 10 instead of Marcus Smith


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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Team announced tomorrow. Captain? Have seen George, Itoje & Curry all mentioned, don't believe any backs are in the frame...

Hasn't Itoje been groomed to take on this mantle?
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Team announced tomorrow. Captain? Have seen George, Itoje & Curry all mentioned, don't believe any backs are in the frame...
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