IMPORTANT Remember to read the rules of the board and abide by them when posting. |
Promotion |
Post Reply | Page <1 34567 16> |
Author | |||
SurreyRugby
First XV regular Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: - Status: Offline Points: 144 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Raider. We all see beauty in different places. There will those that think Elle MacPherson is plain and ugly. Others will see Boris Johnson as a sex symbol. Each to their own Raider. all the best....great banter - SR
|
|||
HAVANT TONY
World Cup Winner Joined: 07 Oct 2018 Location: Havant Status: Offline Points: 540 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
An absolute ton of waffling gone on without the real question being answered I reckon😴
Edited by HAVANT TONY - 14 Mar 2022 at 18:23 |
|||
Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4433 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
I have no idea if your assumption as to why the 3 named players left Worthing for Dorking (although in Spurgeon's case he played a couple of games having retired through injury several years ago). As I understand it When a Premiership side makes Academy players available they need to play - this may be every week or only irregularity but when available the Premiership side expects them to be picked. (please note - this is not an official response just my personal understanding) |
|||
RAID ON
|
|||
FEZ ANT PLUCKER
World Cup Winner Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Location: Reigate Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Dropout22. Can you enlarge on your comment as to why said players left Worthing to move to Dorking? Raider has no idea and nor do I.
|
|||
Fezantplucker
|
|||
dropout22
World Cup Winner Joined: 03 Jul 2017 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 516 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
So i understood Henry Birch didnt get on with Jordan Turner Hall. This was told to me by a Dorking player.
Speaking to Worthing players - I understood Henry Anscombe was in and out of the squad (i didnt check up on this with stats) - thus he wasn't content at Worthing and such moved to Dorking. I have no idea for the last player? Henry birch is player/forwards coach at the club now. After hearing a club at Level 6 pay their head coach £15k a year - i'm sure his role at the club isn't without good remuneration. Dorking has a fabulous location, good home support and a stable business set/up. Not to mention first class s&c and physio support. This is not too say Worthing don't, but Dorking does have a very good club set/up for the level that i'm sure attracts players.
|
|||
FEZ ANT PLUCKER
World Cup Winner Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Location: Reigate Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Thanks Dropout22
Pretty much as I understood the situation. Henry Birch came to us first and as an RFU regional coach he joined us as Forwards coach replacing Matt Higgins as someone has already mentioned. I just didnt know his reason for leaving Worthing, however he may have influenced Anscombe and Spurgeon as they followed soon after. Maybe they had separate unconnected reasons for the move.
|
|||
Fezantplucker
|
|||
Jasper99
First XV regular Joined: 11 Apr 2016 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 98 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
TBH I don't give a pheasant for Dorking and any financial illusions. I am however very interested in 2nd team rugby and why a club would not want to allow those teams into the league structure. NIMBYism or a genuine arguable reason?
|
|||
MikeGC
World Cup Winner Joined: 04 Oct 2014 Location: Burnage Status: Offline Points: 474 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
No idea what the situation is going to be like in the area you are discussing but after a quick look the proposal for Premier North appears to be OK-ish
|
|||
Mark W-J
Coaching staff Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3647 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
My understanding is that lower league clubs fear that players would rather be part of the set-up at a higher-level club, playing mainly 2nd XV rugby but training with the 1st team squad and with a possibility (however small) of playing national league rugby, than registered with a level 7/8 club. It might not apply in all areas of the country, but in Middlesex & Surrey - where there are a lot of clubs playing at level 3-6 - it's a worry for the lower clubs who are already struggling to put out a competitive team.
|
|||
Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4433 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
I would have thought level 7/8 was too low for a number of 2nd teams (and some 3rd teams - Richmond?) |
|||
RAID ON
|
|||
Mark W-J
Coaching staff Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 3647 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
OK, it's just an example. I thought the whole point was putting 2nd XVs into county leagues, which is L8. But the principle remains the same.
|
|||
dropout22
World Cup Winner Joined: 03 Jul 2017 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 516 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Richmond 4th XV beat the Old Alleynians 1st XV (Level 7) 44-10 back in september so you'd be correct.
|
|||
Jasper99
First XV regular Joined: 11 Apr 2016 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 98 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Clifton beat Taunton 2s pre-season. Taunton 2s put 30 on the Navy, were competitive v Hartbury Uni side, plus would match a lot of level 5 sides.
Clifton have lost 3 games at level 9!! Level 3 and 4 rugby is clearly very attritional on squad players.
|
|||
SurreyRugby
First XV regular Joined: 27 Oct 2018 Location: - Status: Offline Points: 144 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
In my experience. Rarely do first team squad players at national league level actually play for the 2nd team. Keep 2nd teams in merit leagues. If admitted they will muck up the current system.
|
|||
Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4433 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
I would totally agree, it isn't unusual for clubs to have 10 or more out injured at some stage in the season. I would think a team needs 30-35 players capable of level 3/4 for a successful season. |
|||
RAID ON
|
|||
Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4433 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
However, if rugby players are anything like cricketers the younger players of today are only interested in playing competitive league games. |
|||
RAID ON
|
|||
Robb
World Cup Winner Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1488 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
If they are to be admitted, I would say add a new bottom league to the county leagues and stick all the 2nd XVs in there so they don't compete against the smaller clubs until a year later. It's not perfect but at least it delays any mucking up of the system and stops them reaching the regional leagues for at least 3-4 years.
|
|||
Raider999
World Cup Winner Joined: 18 Jan 2013 Location: Crawley Status: Offline Points: 4433 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
I suppose that is one way of stopping clubs entering 2nd teams in the league structures - many are going to be too strong at level 7/8 let alone wasting their time starting at level 11/12. |
|||
RAID ON
|
|||
Hare today!
Academy player Joined: 14 Dec 2016 Location: Chester Status: Offline Points: 28 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
[/QUOTE] I suppose that is one way of stopping clubs entering 2nd teams in the league structures - many are going to be too strong at level 7/8 let alone wasting their time starting at level 11/12.[/QUOTE]
Many will be, which is why it's laughable that they have now introduced a ceiling at L7 so any lower XV entering the ECC will not be able to progress higher than L7
|
|||
Robb
World Cup Winner Joined: 24 Jan 2017 Location: South East Status: Offline Points: 1488 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
||
Many will be, which is why it's laughable that they have now introduced a ceiling at L7 so any lower XV entering the ECC will not be able to progress higher than L7 [/QUOTE]
And I hope they don't get involved in the RFU cups.
|
|||
Post Reply | Page <1 34567 16> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |