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Originally posted by Penda Penda wrote:

Originally posted by sedgley dave sedgley dave wrote:

Not only Newport. There are clubs like Sandbach, Holmes Chapel, Crewe & Nantwich, Northwich, Winnington Park.... They are below level 5 in most cases, but level 6 will feed into level 5, so they will also be travelling south, if they are below the line, and will be cut off from historic opponents perhaps 10 miles away.

We (Sandbach) have been in the Midlands at level 5 for a few seasons now. It's a long time since we played any of our traditional local rivals. 

Suspect with Level 5 being somewhat 'top heavy' in the North West we will probably stay in the Midlands

Penda - I think you're fine while you're at level 5, but one promotion and you will be following the road to Redruth. There isn't going to be a 'Midlands' as such, but something like a 'West North' as a feeder to 'West'.

That's if I've understood the proposed structure.
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Originally posted by sedgley dave sedgley dave wrote:

That's if I've understood the proposed structure.

You've clearly not on the same page as HQ. Trying to understand the structure will become clear on September 3rd, unless the season has been changed...... I did read that somewhere 😂
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Originally posted by Even Older Hooker Even Older Hooker wrote:

From a personal point of view I think the wonderful Worthing supporters would prefer the Clubs and Pubs in SW Big smile

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Looking at the 'illustration' sent be the NCA doing some sums comes up with the following.

Adding Redruth to National 2A gives an average travel distance to Redruth of around 225 miles.
5 clubs with over night stays.

Adding Old Reds and Redruth to National 2A and taking out Chester gives an average travel distance to Redruth of 212 miles.
4 clubs with overnight stays.

For comparison this season the average to Redruth is 258 miles with 12 overnight stays.

I've used >250 miles to calculate over night stays.

So the new structure reduces travel by 858 miles or 1196 miles for Redruth over the season based on the examples used and considerably reduces the need to travel on a Friday.
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Originally posted by Redted Redted wrote:

Looking at the 'illustration' ...

So much simpler if Redruth were promoted 
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The cynic in me wonder if the real aim was just to eliminate overnight stays, and the associated RFU funding.
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Edited by FHLH - 19 Mar 2022 at 16:28
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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Redted Redted wrote:

Looking at the 'illustration' ...

So much simpler if Redruth were promoted 

Or relegated on the ‘don’t fit basis’ 😂😂😂joking!!!

It’s not good in my opinion (I am just for a North/South divide of two leagues) but how was a two part national structure able to work and accommodate all parties. 

There are always winners and losers in all decisions/structural re-alignment and you just move on, but sadly not to the disadvantage and detriment of Cornish rugby, a hot bed of Rugby Union. 

Alas, that has been the norm since the introduction of league rugby.

I’m still coming to terms with losing our longest league fixture. Stourbridge Saxons. Unless we both get promoted sometime soon.

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CQ my thoughts all the way from the start of this debacle. 
Reduced budget dressed as player welfare. 
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Originally posted by Sedge Tiger Sedge Tiger wrote:

Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

[QUOTE=Redted]Looking at the 'illustration' ...

So much simpler if Redruth were promoted 

Or relegated on the ‘don’t fit basis’ 😂😂😂joking!!!

It’s not good in my opinion (I am just for a North/South divide of two leagues) but how was a two part national structure able to work and accommodate all parties. 

There are always winners and losers in all decisions/structural re-alignment and you just move on, but sadly not to the disadvantage and detriment of Cornish rugby, a hot bed of Rugby Union. 

Alas, that has been the norm since the introduction of league rugby.


I’m still coming to terms with losing our longest league fixture. Stourbridge Saxons. Unless we both get promoted sometime soon.

All the best 

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Not sure what you have against Cornish rugby but I’d be delighted if Redruth never set foot on Frozen Park ever again.
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Nothing against Redruth or Cornish rugby. Re read or even read my post. 

Sadly the ‘Christmas derby’ game against Redruth postponed on the day due to freak weather suggests Rugby  Union could never be a National sport for!! Redruth!! Summer rugby me thinks suits!! Alas again. Joking!! 

As a Point of order and I’m pretty embarrassed and ashamed to mention this. But Sedge (mainly) and Manchester RFC (Remember them) colluded to not only help pay for team travel and accommodation and I think help supporter accommodation over what the REDs called a Manchester weekend. 

The not so Manc Lads came to Sedge wearing Redruth red. We did the same a day later at Grove Park. Having said that Red is very popular and only colour in Manchester.😂😂😂

Just saying. 

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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

The cynic in me wonder if the real aim was just to eliminate overnight stays, and the associated RFU funding.


Not cynical at all - it is the obvious conclusion.
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ST utter fruit bats and about as accurate as the RFU assessment of England in the 6N.
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Just wanted to say well done and congratulations to the Management team, DoR, Coaches and players at Newport(Salop) who yesterday became the FIRST club to be promoted to the new Level 4 structure. (if my maths is right all the leaders in the other RPL's can still be overtaken by the 3rd placed teams)
Well deserved given their 3rd, 3rd, 2nd (being denied a play off) places of the last three seasons. Looking forward to renewing old rivalries with the likes of Bournville, Lucs, Stourbridge and Hinckley (maybe) plus trips down to the south west to experience pastures new
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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Just wanted to say well done and congratulations to the Management team, DoR, Coaches and players at Newport(Salop) who yesterday became the FIRST club to be promoted to the new Level 4 structure. (if my maths is right all the leaders in the other RPL's can still be overtaken by the 3rd placed teams)
Well deserved given their 3rd, 3rd, 2nd (being denied a play off) places of the last three seasons. Looking forward to renewing old rivalries with the likes of Bournville, Lucs, Stourbridge and Hinckley (maybe) plus trips down to the south west to experience pastures new

Well done on your promotion.

Does this mean your Xmas derby game will be against Chester?
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Well that would make sense but last game before Christmas will be 17 December then no games till 7th Jan - player welfare and all that
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So just like this season then.
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Sorry Camquin we haven't been to these dizzy heights before - thought it was back to back games September through till May😂😂
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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

Sorry Camquin we haven't been to these dizzy heights before - thought it was back to back games September through till May😂😂


There has normally a 2 week break at Christmas/New Year.

Sometimes there has been an additional 1 week break before Christmas and usually 2 or 3 weekly breaks after the New Year.

The weekly breaks have primarily been used to catch up postponements for bad weather..

Reducing the number of games from 30 to 26 will give an extra 4 weeks for breaks.
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