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Runitback
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Posted: 26 Apr 2022 at 11:09 |
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Huge Congratulations to Caldy on their promotion to the Championship, they are clearly the best side in National 1.
Just be ready for Big Eddie one of the most erudite and amusing posters on Rolling Maul. I note with some interest that there were huge concerns about the facilities that Ampthill had when they gained promotion to the Championship . . . but none as to the facilities at Caldy. No doubt the committee have proactively acquired significant quantities of Pot Noodles!! On a more serious note, I am presuming they will stay semi-pro and that their first season will be a steep learning curve. Will they lean on the Sharks or RGC for players? However, there is the possibility that the Championship will move to a 14 team league so they may well have a seasons grace to adapt to the new level . . something they did with ease moving from Nat2 to Champions of Nat1!!
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Camquin
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Only on their second attempt, the first time they were promoted to N1, they were unfortunately relegated after a tense dog fight with Moseley and Cambridge that went to the final day of the season when any one of the three teams could have gone down. To their credit, they swept N2N to win promotion immediately and, after an enforced year off, National 1. They just do not know they are beaten and play on to the 80th minute. They are a great set of fans, who support the club for the sake of the club, not the score. I really enjoyed their visits to Cambridge and regret not making it to the Wirral - but work got in the way.
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Big Eddie
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Thank you Runitback......for the congratulations for Caldy and for what I will take as a personal compliment. I like 'erudite and amusing' and I will be very proudly showing this to my wife. I doubt it will dissuade her from using the normal description she favours me with....... .............a pity because 'erudite and amusing' is so much better than "Kno**ead"
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''The future isn't what it used to be''
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Big Eddie
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Unlikely. Caldy has always grown its own or enabled other local players to step up to a higher level. I suspect there may be the odd Dual Reg player but we have only ever had two and I cannot see that changing. This season of the 30+ players we have used in the 1st xv squad: 12 have come through from Caldy's mini and junior sides 15 are either from other local Wirral clubs or have moved into the area to study or work and have joined Caldy as their local rugby club. 3 live in relative close proximity to the Wirral but not actual on the Wirral Of the players who joined this year and have played at least 10 games for the 1st xv 1 had only played at level 7 before (20+ games as a starter in this season's Caldy 1st xv) 1 had only played at level 6 before (28 games as a starter in this season's Caldy 1st xv) 1 had only played at level 5 before (last 10 games in this season's Caldy 1st xv) 1 had previously played at level 4 but prior to joining Caldy was playing at level 5 (20+ games as a starter in Caldy's 1st xv this season) This season Caldy has had 2 dual reg players from Sale Sharks. My understanding was that these two young players would spend the season at Caldy. After the first game Sale Sharks decided to pull them from Caldy and send them to RGC. One asked Sharks to let him stay at Caldy and he played all season with Caldy. The Caldy model has worked well for Caldy and I hope it doesn't change. Caldy is Caldy not an offshoot of Sale Sharks Edited by Big Eddie - 26 Apr 2022 at 12:07 |
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cheshire exile
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Where is this suggestion that the Championship could move to 14 clubs??
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Camquin
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When the Championship clubs decided to stay at 12 teams this season, there were some words about possibly expanding in future, as nobody likes the cup.
However, I think that would require some clubs to be guaranteed that the funding levels per club were retained.
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Rabbie Burns
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I thought the funding was. Due to be removed from the Championship this year
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So many Christians not enough Lions
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corporalcarrot
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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Camquin
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As I understood, it was much reduced, but not completely removed. And the reason for not expanding this season was some clubs were worrying further dilution would mean they were not financially viable, but that all comes from rumours on here. |
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cheshire exile
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Quite a few of us liked the British and Irish Cup. Presumably that’s why it was discontinued and replaced with the current lash-up.
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Raider999
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No way the cup will involve French D2 sides - they have a full fixture list (this has been said many times) Not sure why rage B& I cup fell through but will it ever come back? This leaves the poor solution that currently exists. Just a thought - could the cup involve the Scottish Super 6 teams (although having watched some of it during Covid - they npmay not be strong enough) |
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Halliford
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The original proposal was that the Cup would involve Premiership A League teams and the Championship Clubs. How that stands now with the Premiership Clubs asking for £1million each to do it, I don't know. I would imagine also that London Scottish, under their new arrangement with Harlequins, wouldn't be able to field a side.
The other suggestion was that it would include the top University teams but when would they be available to play? I think the drawing board is being dusted down again, as we type.
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Pirate Pig
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The B&I cup was a good competition giving the championship clubs an opportunity to test themselves against the best tier 2 clubs in Wales, Ireland and Scotland.
I believe that it was a concept that would have got stronger year on year and I think the majority of the fans enjoyed the chance to see teams from the other home unions. Unfortunately it was never fully funded and again the RFU failed to work with the other unions to find suitable sponsors not to mention the lack of media coverage. The idea of the premiership A teams playing against championship clubs is already a non starter and the current lash up is not fit for purpose.
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Camquin
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Loughborough are the strongest university side, and they are in Nat 2. Cambridge played Durham and Exeter in place of our matches with Old Elthamians. We gave the squad players a run out and the students struggled to match the forward power. Against the top Championship sides, I would worry about safety. If that was solved, you would need to change the BUCS leagues to clear time in their fixtures.
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Raider999
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The obvious answer is for the Championship to enlarge to 14 teams.
With the RFU funding being reduced year on year the argument that the funds would be diluted across 14 instead of 11/12 doesn't hold water - after all a 12th of nothing is the same as a 14th of nothing. It must be obvious to everyone that the idea of the Championship being a Full Time Professional is dead in the water. Championship clubs that rely on the RFU funding in their business model should be looking at alternative sources before the funding disappears entirely. |
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dropout22
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Loughborough haven't been the strongest university side for years.... If anything they're probably 5th or 6th. It would be Hartpury followed by probably Exeter and then Durham. However when it comes to senior rugby as opposed to university level. Some of the sides such as Leeds Beckett with a number of older players may be better equipped then say a Durham where the size of their players isn't a factor in BUCS would be a factor in Saturday XVs.
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islander
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Welcome to Caldy & BE. One thing you’ll notice the Champ has in common with Nat Lgs is a tendency for threads to meander off topic!
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Whistle watcher
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I think Camquin may be confusing the mid-week BUCS side (which would be University side) with their Saturday "club" wich is open to any players (but is mainly made up of students), so the two are different, but easily confused with each other.
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kempstonblue
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Is it obvious to people in committees at Twickenham? Welcome Caldy, hopefully you feel welcome in your trips across England. Edited by kempstonblue - 27 Apr 2022 at 08:25 |
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The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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corporalcarrot
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Jersey had a brilliant pre-season match against D2 opposition: and have played the Super 6 winners but fielded a below strength side: I favour 12 strong Championship sides in a competitive league and a proper Cup Competition against the best Scottish, Irish & Welsh sides plus a couple of D2 French Clubs. The French D2 & Irish regional seconds will be the ultimate winners but the chance to play against quality teams and visit brilliant grounds seems a good option in my view.
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Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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