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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Continuing the Cornish theme, do any of the Caldy cognoscenti have a view on the recent County Championship result? The Cheshire side, which IIRC was predominantly made up of Caldy players, lost to a Duchy side which was effectively Redruth plus a few Nat 1 players and a couple from level 6.

Caldy first team players or, Caldy players? Genuine question, I've got no idea. They do have a lot of adult players though.
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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Continuing the Cornish theme, do any of the Caldy cognoscenti have a view on the recent County Championship result? The Cheshire side, which IIRC was predominantly made up of Caldy players, lost to a Duchy side which was effectively Redruth plus a few Nat 1 players and a couple from level 6.

Probably complacency and Cornwall's impressively fast start. For all of the National 1 league season Caldy were underdogs .......they probably were discombobulated by being big favourites.

Next season Caldy will be back to where they feel most comfortable ...........massive underdogs
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I believe this was a game too far for many of the players in the Last Half of the Season they went unbeaten for 17 games and in April they had to play 3 sides in the top 5 , including Rams, Rosslyn Park away and Sale at home winning all three, The County season , in the North proved to be against two very poor sides Cheshire won by 101 and 60 points not really a good build up to the final. In future There needs to be a rethink in the North and the three best sides ,Cheshire, Yorkshire and Lancashire need play each other as with Cornwall they are the only 4 Counties that take the Championship seriously. Next season , of course, No Caldy Players will be eligible, so the county will need to rely on players from lower leagues .
  


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They will have Sale players, for at least one more season.
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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Continuing the Cornish theme, do any of the Caldy cognoscenti have a view on the recent County Championship result? The Cheshire side, which IIRC was predominantly made up of Caldy players, lost to a Duchy side which was effectively Redruth plus a few Nat 1 players and a couple from level 6.

Although Caldy made up a significant proportion of the team, the fact that both prior games were essentially walkovers was only one small issue.

Having been to the Cheshire games, I don't think it was a Caldy issue, I think it was a Cheshire issue. 

Predominantly, the issue was/is the poor approach Cheshire take to the Bill Beaumont Cup. Is it on their website? (no it isn't)  Did their social media tell you which players were from which clubs accurately (no it didn't) Did we organise any promotion of the cup? (no we didn't) Did we approach all the Cheshire clubs and ask them what they wanted to do? (No we didn't) The "supporters bus" went from Caldy, to Chester, to Sandbach services. So apparently only Chester and Caldy are the only two clubs in Cheshire now? The final lineup (players out of position, top players sat on the bench) was also an issue. 

Realistically it was (at best) a slap dash approach compared to the much more professional approach of Cornwall to the competition that was more to blame than any individual clubs. Cornwall support at Twickenham was in the thousands, Cheshire was (optimistically) in the hundreds. It's not good enough to say "well, Cornwall have more support". If we don't take it seriously, we won't win and therefor might as well not bother. Perhaps next year, a more balanced team, with more support from Cheshire clubs might make a difference, but we need to take a thousand supporters, not a hundred.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 08:03
A previous poster pointed out that only 4 counties take this competition seriously Lancs, Yorks, Cheshire and Cornwall. Enough I would say to question the validity and worth of the competition. If Jimbo is correct then I think you can reduce that number from 4 to 3!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote PiffPaff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 09:17
I think 24 of the 28 eligible counties started the CC this year. Everyone seems to think that there are only a handful of interested counties. Funny that because Somerset seem highly delighted with their Div. 2 win http://www.somersetrfu.co.uk/frontpage.php as do Div.3 Winners https://www.oxfordshirerfu.com/2022/06/04/champions-2021-22/ Oxfordshire.

The issues with the CC are simple, RFU Competitions cannot be a-rsed with it and County Championship Organising Committee couldn't organise a raffle. 

Agree with jjs that Cheshire tend to go in to things half-ass-ed but given you roughly have 2 weeks to organise things like transport/hotels with an ever decreasing budget you are not left with much wriggle room to add additional pickup points. If passed to a proper organising body the CC could be much better run and publicised and why there is not a Sponsor for such a competition with its history is another failure from those "running" things at TW2




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Redted Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 09:49
I don’t think you can blame the loss on Caldy players being tired after a long season, Redruth played more games, were in the fight to win the league all season and spent many more hours on a coach. 
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Originally posted by Thatbloke Thatbloke wrote:

A previous poster pointed out that only 4 counties take this competition seriously Lancs, Yorks, Cheshire and Cornwall. Enough I would say to question the validity and worth of the competition. If Jimbo is correct then I think you can reduce that number from 4 to 3!

Abit like the Championship cup then really.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 09:56
So a thread welcoming Caldy turns into a niggling session about the County Cup?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 11:12
Apologies Kimbo - I think if someone posts something the immediate instinct is to respond NOT necessarily to check if it's in the right thread
SO I blame Cheshire Exile who was the first to go off track! 😂😂
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Happy to take the blame, some interesting comments elicited.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pen 15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jun 2022 at 21:55
I do believe Caldy have upgraded the facilities for Media ,journalists and photographers. The new wall socket ,placed next to the disabled toilet will have 2 USB ports along with 2 3 pin sockets. No expense spared
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pen 15 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2022 at 08:27
Originally posted by pen 15 pen 15 wrote:

I do believe Caldy have upgraded the facilities for Media ,journalists and photographers. The new wall socket ,placed next to the disabled toilet will have 2 USB ports along with 2 3 pin sockets. No expense spared
obviously  it's supply your own mobile data ,no wifi
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In our only visit (so far) back in 2018, the new rugby correspondent for The Rotherham Advertiser decided to come along for the day. I’ve tweeted from desks made from wheelie bins in lots of places, took my own picnic chair to Ampthill, and always enjoyed the free pasty for the press down at Pirates.

He was used to the press boxes at football grounds so the facilities at Caldy were a slight shock (!) to him, poor soul. I’d saved him 2 chairs, one for him and one for his laptop, had brought extra power packs to share with him and even let him use my data via my phone hot-spot. During the warm up his laptop was clattered by a wayward kick and only just survived. According to him, the only positive on the day was it wasn’t raining. Oh and we won, in that order! 

Since then we see him at some away games, but usually those with cover, a plug socket and a proper seat. His education continues though and he does write great pieces about us. 

Hope to be back at Caldy - in the sunshine - one day. Great club and great people. 
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Originally posted by LJ from Roth LJ from Roth wrote:

In our only visit (so far) back in 2018, the new rugby correspondent for The Rotherham Advertiser decided to come along for the day. I’ve tweeted from desks made from wheelie bins in lots of places, took my own picnic chair to Ampthill, and always enjoyed the free pasty for the press down at Pirates.

He was used to the press boxes at football grounds so the facilities at Caldy were a slight shock (!) to him, poor soul. I’d saved him 2 chairs, one for him and one for his laptop, had brought extra power packs to share with him and even let him use my data via my phone hot-spot. During the warm up his laptop was clattered by a wayward kick and only just survived. According to him, the only positive on the day was it wasn’t raining. Oh and we won, in that order! 

Since then we see him at some away games, but usually those with cover, a plug socket and a proper seat. His education continues though and he does write great pieces about us. 

Hope to be back at Caldy - in the sunshine - one day. Great club and great people. 

Probably a disgruntled supporter lashing out because rain was getting in to his Pot Noodle
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Could someone from Caldy help? Should the first syllable of your name be pronounced to rhyme with 'haul' or with 'hal'?
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Could someone from Caldy help? Should the first syllable of your name be pronounced to rhyme with 'haul' or with 'hal'?
Flat vowels in the North. 
What if the Hokey Kokey really IS what it's all about?
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My memory of visiting Caldy is vivid
Cov clinching promotion back to the Championship.
Cold, snowy day, only place to do commentary for local radio behind the goalposts.
Cov scored all but 1 try attacking '' our end '' When in the second half a try was scored 90 metres away, twitter confirmed the name of the scorer !
Memories come flooding back, not forgotten easily !!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jun 2022 at 15:49
Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Could someone from Caldy help? Should the first syllable of your name be pronounced to rhyme with 'haul' or with 'hal'?

In January it's 'hel', to rhyme with hell as the wind cuts in from the Irish Sea and the sleet hits you horizontally!
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