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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Hartpury 13 (1T) - Ealing 26 (BP) - FT Game ends just as Ealing held up over the line. Ealing saved by scrum dominance.

Agree with you & wish Ealing good luck in the Prem. However I thought they were turned over easily at the breakdown several times first half and the penalty that led to the try just before half time was marginal IMO. 
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Reds v Scottish finished 24-22. You won't get a more fortunate win with LS missing what would have been a last-kick DG and then a last-kick pen attempt. 8 tries, and exciting, but you'd have thought it was 2 sides in upper mid-table not 2nd v 12th
Fully agree with this but if you're not playing well its a huge bonus if you get lucky by scoring an interception try and your opponents miss a kick to win from in front of the posts. If Jersey play like that against Pirates next week they will need to keep the luck running for them given their mounting injury list. Scottish must be absolutely gutted, they played exceptionally well and will surely win games on that form.
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Reds v Scottish finished 24-22. You won't get a more fortunate win with LS missing what would have been a last-kick DG and then a last-kick pen attempt. 8 tries, and exciting, but you'd have thought it was 2 sides in upper mid-table not 2nd v 12th
Fully agree with this but if you're not playing well its a huge bonus if you get lucky by scoring an interception try and your opponents miss a kick to win from in front of the posts. If Jersey play like that against Pirates next week they will need to keep the luck running for them given their mounting injury list. Scottish must be absolutely gutted, they played exceptionally well and will surely win games on that form.

Yes, but CC this was not a London Scottish Championship side that we faced today. If they put that side out every week they would be in the top 3.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bedfordian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 08:28
I can see only two players not in the squad that played Bedford last week?? Many teams change 3-4 players a week due to injury or changes of position. Perhaps Jersey had an off day?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 09:08
Originally posted by Bedfordian Bedfordian wrote:

I can see only two players not in the squad that played Bedford last week?? Many teams change 3-4 players a week due to injury or changes of position. Perhaps Jersey had an off day?
Jersey didn't have their best day mate and that may well be partly due to the coaches selection policy but I give most credit to Scottish who played really well particularly in the second half down the slope. It must be good for the game that the big Tongan lad gets a chance to play rugby - he is unlikely to play ahead of Dombrandt at Quins - and that was a brilliant game to watch with 8 tries. I was at the reverse fixture at the RAG which Jersey won at a canter and was a total mismatch. I would much rather see a game like yesterday which literally went down to the wire. I understand the opposition to the present player loan arrangements which may well be over well used by some clubs but its giving cracking players a chance to play competitive rugby rather than sit games out with bigger clubs. Given the Jersey injury list I'd be surprised if the Jersey coaches aren't looking to borrow a hooker on loan although I saw Jack Macfarlane watching from the West end of the ground yesterday. Jersey's lineout was much improved imo opinion when Hamish Bain was on the pitch but place kicking from both teams probably requires practice!
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Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

ATT 3,267 at Blues

Awesome result, Awesome crowd number

Bedford clearly blew Prates away, I didn't expect a win, but I didn't expect that as Pirates seemed to be improving since the New Year. A bit of a reality check for this young squad. Hope they can regroup for a tough test against Jersey next week.
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We all agree that these are good players who should be playing at a high level.
However, is the best way to do that for the RFU to give money to a handful of clubs to employ them and then loan them out to other clubs of their choice.

Firstly, it seems to distort the lower leagues.
Secondly, there is still a risk that the chosen club can go bust.
Thirdly, it probably inflates wages across the leagues.
Finally, it does not seem to be the best system financially - money going through multiple hands with that many accountants costng money.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote KnightsBoy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 10:09
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

We all agree that these are good players who should be playing at a high level.
However, is the best way to do that for the RFU to give money to a handful of clubs to employ them and then loan them out to other clubs of their choice.

Firstly, it seems to distort the lower leagues.
Secondly, there is still a risk that the chosen club can go bust.
Thirdly, it probably inflates wages across the leagues.
Finally, it does not seem to be the best system financially - money going through multiple hands with that many accountants costng money.

Because of the geographical dominance of where the majority of prem sides are located, the talent too be loaned out is generally loaned in their area's, to the benefit of them tier 2, 3 clubs etc.
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Originally posted by KnightsBoy KnightsBoy wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

ATT 3,267 at Blues

Awesome result, Awesome crowd number
Looking at the fixture run in at Goldington Road I can only see that figure going higher.  All highest placed teams to visit, also our ‘bogey’ team Richmond.  Expect a possible sellout against Cov on the 29th April, win or lose that will be a great end to the season.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 11:05
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

We all agree that these are good players who should be playing at a high level.
However, is the best way to do that for the RFU to give money to a handful of clubs to employ them and then loan them out to other clubs of their choice.

It's the world rugby lives in today in England mate so clubs like Scottish, Blues & Hartpury will naturally take the opportunity to use these cracking players. I enjoyed seeing an great contest yesterday and its difficult for me to moan as Jersey very fortunately  took all five points. Quins will want Scottish to stay in the Championship so the quality of loan players are likely to increase as we get to the sharp end of the season.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Reds v Scottish finished 24-22. You won't get a more fortunate win with LS missing what would have been a last-kick DG and then a last-kick pen attempt. 8 tries, and exciting, but you'd have thought it was 2 sides in upper mid-table not 2nd v 12th

Wasn't it Championship 2nd v Championship 12th/Premiership 3rd?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2023 at 13:16
Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Reds v Scottish finished 24-22. You won't get a more fortunate win with LS missing what would have been a last-kick DG and then a last-kick pen attempt. 8 tries, and exciting, but you'd have thought it was 2 sides in upper mid-table not 2nd v 12th

Wasn't it Championship 2nd v Championship 12th/Premiership 3rd?
However you want to describe the fixture it was a great game to watch from start to finish. 
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I see on twitter Ampthill vs Cov is off 
When was this fixture rearranged?
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

I see on twitter Ampthill vs Cov is off 
When was this fixture rearranged?

It hasn't been publicly yet.

Updated to remove out-of-state / incorrect info. Thanks PI003.

As the other overdue match in the Championship also involves Ampthill (v Nottingham), occurred (or rather, didn't) first it has priority for scheduling. Apparently this game is now scheduled for Feb 25th, which means the first weekend for Ampthill to play Coventry probably April 8th.


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Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

I see on twitter Ampthill vs Cov is off 
When was this fixture rearranged?

It hasn't been publicly yet.

As the other overdue match in the Championship is Nottingham v Ampthill, which occurred (or rather, didn't) first it has priority for scheduling. As this is a Nottingham home match it cannot be scheduled until Nottingham local football fixtures are scheduled due to Police requirements to not allow two sporting events to use the Trent Bridges on the same day.
Apparently someone failed to leave the wolf and the cabbage on the same side of the river at the same time while the rabbit was in the small rowing boat.

Nick you are right on the yet to be arranged Ampthill v Coventry fixture, but the game mentioned including Nottingham is in fact, Ampthill v Nottingham , and that has been arranged for the first available date which was February 25th.   
Hope this clears this up. 
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Originally posted by PI003 PI003 wrote:

Originally posted by OldNick OldNick wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Elijah Cadman Elijah Cadman wrote:

I see on twitter Ampthill vs Cov is off 
When was this fixture rearranged?

It hasn't been publicly yet.

As the other overdue match in the Championship is Nottingham v Ampthill, which occurred (or rather, didn't) first it has priority for scheduling. As this is a Nottingham home match it cannot be scheduled until Nottingham local football fixtures are scheduled due to Police requirements to not allow two sporting events to use the Trent Bridges on the same day.
Apparently someone failed to leave the wolf and the cabbage on the same side of the river at the same time while the rabbit was in the small rowing boat.

Nick you are right on the yet to be arranged Ampthill v Coventry fixture, but the game mentioned including Nottingham is in fact, Ampthill v Nottingham , and that has been arranged for the first available date which was February 25th.   
Hope this clears this up. 
Thanks for explaining that lads and all the best for the remaining games. I still rate Cov as having an outside chance of winning the league. Ealing have four away games left at Archers, Blues, Jersey & Donny and could well lose at least half of them so keep going. It could come down to bonus  points at the end of April.
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