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    Posted: 30 Apr 2023 at 17:33
The Pirates webcast is now available for the match on Friday at £7 for those keen to follow it but also wanting to see the Siam Cup games in Jersey the following day.

The link is Webcasts (247.tv)
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The seedings don't count for anything after the semi-finals; clubs have been told that team with biggest winning margin in the semi earns home advantage for the final.

Pirates v Reds confirmed for Friday, 7.30pm. Date works well around various other events on the Saturday, including Cornwall's home Billy B Cup tie, the annual Siam Cup festivities between Jersey and Guernsey, and some royal pageantry in London.


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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

The semi-final pairings are bizarre.
<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jersey P6 W5 25 points </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Doncaster P6 W4 23 points </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So who has the best playing record? Oh, yes, Doncaster of course! </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">So points from matches decides your place in the table, but not for qualifying for the semi-final. </span><br style="font-size: 16px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: myriad-pro, helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Jersey won 5 games, Donny won 4, so obviously Donny have a better record!</span>



Get your point Stalwart, but t'other side of it is that Donny won a pool, Reds didn't, and that's how they've ended up doing it.

Not saying which way's right, but there are 2 ways of skinning this cat. Was same in old Heineken Cup with 5 pools and 3 runners-up qualifying for QFs - those 3 clubs were automatically ranked 6/7/8 even if they 'out-performed' any pool winners.

That is why I thought that the semis would be on a who performs best in these games basis.
In theory, no. 4 seeds Jersey could go to the No. 1 seed Pirates, win and yet still be seeded lower than the other 2 teams.
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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

The semi-final pairings are bizarre.
Jersey P6 W5 25 points 
Doncaster P6 W4 23 points 

So who has the best playing record? Oh, yes, Doncaster of course! 

So points from matches decides your place in the table, but not for qualifying for the semi-final. 
Jersey won 5 games, Donny won 4, so obviously Donny have a better record!


Get your point Stalwart, but t'other side of it is that Donny won a pool, Reds didn't, and that's how they've ended up doing it.

Not saying which way's right, but there are 2 ways of skinning this cat. Was same in old Heineken Cup with 5 pools and 3 runners-up qualifying for QFs - those 3 clubs were automatically ranked 6/7/8 even if they 'out-performed' any pool winners.
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The semi-final pairings are bizarre.
Jersey P6 W5 25 points 
Doncaster P6 W4 23 points 

So who has the best playing record? Oh, yes, Doncaster of course! 

So points from matches decides your place in the table, but not for qualifying for the semi-final. 
Jersey won 5 games, Donny won 4, so obviously Donny have a better record!
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Any idea what this means "The Final of the Championship Cup takes place the weekend after the semi-finals, 12-14 May, and will be played at the home ground of the club with the best playing record in the semi-finals."? Does that mean the higher seeded team coming out of the Semi? Or does it mean the team with the best outcome e.g. 5-0 vs. 4-1 in points?

I read it as if Pirates win they are at home and if Jersey win they are away to whoever wins the other match.

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

It says ‘in the semi-finals’ so surely it means the best performing team in the semi’s. I.e. bonus point win, then biggest points difference or tries scored etc. That way every team has the opportunity of hosting the final.

I answered Gerg's query above... Smile
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Originally posted by The Blues The Blues wrote:

Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Any idea what this means "The Final of the Championship Cup takes place the weekend after the semi-finals, 12-14 May, and will be played at the home ground of the club with the best playing record in the semi-finals."? Does that mean the higher seeded team coming out of the Semi? Or does it mean the team with the best outcome e.g. 5-0 vs. 4-1 in points?

I read it as if Pirates win they are at home and if Jersey win they are away to whoever wins the other match.

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

It says ‘in the semi-finals’ so surely it means the best performing team in the semi’s. I.e. bonus point win, then biggest points difference or tries scored etc. That way every team has the opportunity of hosting the final.

I answered Gerg's query above... Smile
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It says ‘in the semi-finals’ so surely it means the best performing team in the semi’s. I.e. bonus point win, then biggest points difference or tries scored etc. That way every team has the opportunity of hosting the final.
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Originally posted by gerg_861 gerg_861 wrote:

Any idea what this means "The Final of the Championship Cup takes place the weekend after the semi-finals, 12-14 May, and will be played at the home ground of the club with the best playing record in the semi-finals."? Does that mean the higher seeded team coming out of the Semi? Or does it mean the team with the best outcome e.g. 5-0 vs. 4-1 in points?

I read it as if Pirates win they are at home and if Jersey win they are away to whoever wins the other match.
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Originally posted by No 7 No 7 wrote:

Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Do either of the Ealing supporters go to away games ??


I do .......well as many as I can. I have signed up for the Jersey away game . Not sure about the other supporter. I have been to the away game at Jersey many times.

What about you Geoff ? do you commit to many away games ?

So looking forward to that game No. 7. It is easy to forget that there is a huge amount of rugby to play before we get to it. I do think that it will be an occasion though and I’m looking forward to catching up with you.
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Lost count of how many N0.7
I've even been to Ealing, with a pint in the Duke of Kent on the way.
I must have seen you, as I swear I saw at least one Trailfinders supporter there
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Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Do either of the Ealing supporters go to away games ??

I do .......well as many as I can. I have signed up for the Jersey away game . Not sure about the other supporter. I have been to the away game at Jersey many times.

What about you Geoff ? do you commit to many away games ?
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Credit where credit is due. It is a fantastic incentive for the teams to keep going until the final whistle.
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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Yes should be a cracker Carrott.
I imagine the RFU are hoping either of us do enough to get a Home final or failing that Donny Beer
You can be pretty sure that even if Jersey beat Pirates they would have no chance of getting the final at St Peter. I think its a pity they haven't arranged for the final to be at a neutral ground like the Stoop, RAG or even ODP which would be easy to get to for all supporters. I would go even if Jersey weren't involved unless it was a sell out and it meant a proper supporter of one of the clubs involved was being denied a chance of a ticket. 

350 miles and a six hour journey each way from Penzance to the RAG or Stoop on a good day. Hardly easy.
Probably easier and nearer than Castle Park particularly if you have a week or less to organize it. The odds are heavily stacked in favour of the final being at Vallis Way or Castle Park. The RFU will probably prefer Vallis Way in case they need to send somebody to give the trophy out.
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Originally posted by *Stalwart *Stalwart wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Yes should be a cracker Carrott.
I imagine the RFU are hoping either of us do enough to get a Home final or failing that Donny Beer
You can be pretty sure that even if Jersey beat Pirates they would have no chance of getting the final at St Peter. I think its a pity they haven't arranged for the final to be at a neutral ground like the Stoop, RAG or even ODP which would be easy to get to for all supporters. I would go even if Jersey weren't involved unless it was a sell out and it meant a proper supporter of one of the clubs involved was being denied a chance of a ticket. 


350 miles and a six hour journey each way from Penzance to the RAG or Stoop on a good day. Hardly easy.

Even more so seeing as Pirates won’t be playing Stalwart
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Yes should be a cracker Carrott.
I imagine the RFU are hoping either of us do enough to get a Home final or failing that Donny Beer
You can be pretty sure that even if Jersey beat Pirates they would have no chance of getting the final at St Peter. I think its a pity they haven't arranged for the final to be at a neutral ground like the Stoop, RAG or even ODP which would be easy to get to for all supporters. I would go even if Jersey weren't involved unless it was a sell out and it meant a proper supporter of one of the clubs involved was being denied a chance of a ticket. 

350 miles and a six hour journey each way from Penzance to the RAG or Stoop on a good day. Hardly easy.
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Originally posted by Geoff DC Geoff DC wrote:

Yes should be a cracker Carrott.
I imagine the RFU are hoping either of us do enough to get a Home final or failing that Donny Beer
You can be pretty sure that even if Jersey beat Pirates they would have no chance of getting the final at St Peter. I think its a pity they haven't arranged for the final to be at a neutral ground like the Stoop, RAG or even ODP which would be easy to get to for all supporters. I would go even if Jersey weren't involved unless it was a sell out and it meant a proper supporter of one of the clubs involved was being denied a chance of a ticket. 
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Do either of the Ealing supporters go to away games ??
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If the final is at The Mennaye or Castle Park there would be a big crowd. Jersey would have a good turnout I'm sure, at Ealing probably not.
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I imagine the RFU are hoping either of us do enough to get a Home final or failing that Donny Beer
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