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    Posted: 21 Apr 2023 at 15:47
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The cat is now firmly amongst the pigeons - come on Richmond!
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Get ready to run with 11 again would be my bet!!
Relegations down the pyramid to accommodate a club that's gone bust and still has no ground, no players and still no money as far as I know
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If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.
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I hate to say this, but relegation was already decided before W&W went bust, so it was never an either/or question. This was just a decision based on an appeal to the Council  - I am not sure by whom. 

Still on the plus side, it means tomorrow at the RAG will be blood and thunder. Just the 8 Harlequins loan players in the Scottish squad. 



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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.
I'm probably missing something but if one club is promoted and another is relegated AND Wasps are brought in doesn't that give a Championship of thirteen rather than eleven and a Premiership of eleven? Perhaps the clubs who have a bye in each league can play each other. Twelve in each may make more sense as the RFU don't want Ealing or Jersey perhaps they should place Wasps straight back into the premiership.


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Champ will be 12 or 13 in 23/24 as a result of this decision: top 11 from this season (definitely) + promoted club from N1 (definitely) + Wasps (tbc)
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.
I'm probably missing something but if one club is promoted and another is relegated AND Wasps are brought in doesn't that give a Championship of thirteen rather than eleven and a Premiership of eleven? Perhaps the clubs who have a bye in each league can play each other. Twelve in each may make more sense as the RFU don't want Ealing or Jersey perhaps they should place Wasps straight back into the premiership.




Yes 13… sorry my bad.
I really do not have a problem with relegation, but the whole Wasps thing does not sit comfortably with me. They went bust owing 10’s of millions and they have been rewarded with a place in Tier 2. They don’t have a squad, so they will come knocking on the doors of players from Ealing, Jersey, Coventry and probably many others, promising premiership rugby as that is where they will ultimately end up. That, quite simply, is not right and the RFU are failing to see, or just ignoring, how wrong that is.
So, if they stay, then how can you relegate clubs who play within the rules? And no CC, the place for Wasps is not the PL.
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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.
I'm probably missing something but if one club is promoted and another is relegated AND Wasps are brought in doesn't that give a Championship of thirteen rather than eleven and a Premiership of eleven? Perhaps the clubs who have a bye in each league can play each other. Twelve in each may make more sense as the RFU don't want Ealing or Jersey perhaps they should place Wasps straight back into the premiership.




Yes 13… sorry my bad.
I really do not have a problem with relegation, but the whole Wasps thing does not sit comfortably with me. They went bust owing 10’s of millions and they have been rewarded with a place in Tier 2. They don’t have a squad, so they will come knocking on the doors of players from Ealing, Jersey, Coventry and probably many others, promising premiership rugby as that is where they will ultimately end up. That, quite simply, is not right and the RFU are failing to see, or just ignoring, how wrong that is.
So, if they stay, then how can you relegate clubs who play within the rules? And no CC, the place for Wasps is not the PL.
I bet you a Hackett sausage roll they are back in the premiership within a few years. Wouldn't it be better just to get on with it and save the waste of time?

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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.
I'm probably missing something but if one club is promoted and another is relegated AND Wasps are brought in doesn't that give a Championship of thirteen rather than eleven and a Premiership of eleven? Perhaps the clubs who have a bye in each league can play each other. Twelve in each may make more sense as the RFU don't want Ealing or Jersey perhaps they should place Wasps straight back into the premiership.




Yes 13… sorry my bad.
I really do not have a problem with relegation, but the whole Wasps thing does not sit comfortably with me. They went bust owing 10’s of millions and they have been rewarded with a place in Tier 2. They don’t have a squad, so they will come knocking on the doors of players from Ealing, Jersey, Coventry and probably many others, promising premiership rugby as that is where they will ultimately end up. That, quite simply, is not right and the RFU are failing to see, or just ignoring, how wrong that is.
So, if they stay, then how can you relegate clubs who play within the rules? And no CC, the place for Wasps is not the PL.
I bet you a Hackett sausage roll they are back in the premiership within a few years. Wouldn't it be better just to get on with it and save the waste of time?

No, they need to earn that right again, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t go for some sort of collaboration.
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At least the RFU have given the clubs 8 days notice and 1 day before the big game! Quite a lot for them! Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corporalcarrot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Apr 2023 at 07:30
Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.
I'm probably missing something but if one club is promoted and another is relegated AND Wasps are brought in doesn't that give a Championship of thirteen rather than eleven and a Premiership of eleven? Perhaps the clubs who have a bye in each league can play each other. Twelve in each may make more sense as the RFU don't want Ealing or Jersey perhaps they should place Wasps straight back into the premiership.




Yes 13… sorry my bad.
I really do not have a problem with relegation, but the whole Wasps thing does not sit comfortably with me. They went bust owing 10’s of millions and they have been rewarded with a place in Tier 2. They don’t have a squad, so they will come knocking on the doors of players from Ealing, Jersey, Coventry and probably many others, promising premiership rugby as that is where they will ultimately end up. That, quite simply, is not right and the RFU are failing to see, or just ignoring, how wrong that is.
So, if they stay, then how can you relegate clubs who play within the rules? And no CC, the place for Wasps is not the PL.
I bet you a Hackett sausage roll they are back in the premiership within a few years. Wouldn't it be better just to get on with it and save the waste of time?

No, they need to earn that right again, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they didn’t go for some sort of collaboration.
I'm not sure that Wasps need to earn the right again mate. Ealing earned the right last season but it didn't seem to matter. Surely the only thing that is important is that the RFU and Prem Clubs want Wasps and they make the rules so surely it would be better to just get on with it and put them back in the prem next season. Seems more sensible than having odd numbers of clubs in the top two leagues. None of this stuff has anything to do with results on the pitch or the winner of the game at St Peter today would earn the right.
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Sorry CC, but every time you make the suggestion about Wasps being re-installed in the Prem I think what a bad idea it is; and one that no-one else here - or anywhere else - seems to agree with. You'll probably come back and argue your case again, but shouldn't we be focusing on more exciting events today?
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Indeed. There's not a scintilla of a case for that non-club (which it is at the moment) being within ten divisions of the Prem.
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Originally posted by islander islander wrote:

Sorry CC, but every time you make the suggestion about Wasps being re-installed in the Prem I think what a bad idea it is; and one that no-one else here - or anywhere else - seems to agree with. You'll probably come back and argue your case again, but shouldn't we be focusing on more exciting events today?
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Radio 4 are wittering about Wrexham possibly re-entering the Football league, partly because they now have Hollywood backing.

Jersey having a chance to get promoted to the Rugby Premiership should be the big story - but because the dogs in their manger say no, the march on the island is utterly ignored.

Te Championship needs some serious marketing, does it even have a PR department?

Perhaps with a compelling behind the scenes documentary, like Drive to Survive or Welcome to Wrexham.



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Jersey have no chance of promotion, only of winning the league.
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I understand  Corporate Carrots stance and it is intrinsically linked to where we are where we are going ..or not going  
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Radio 4 are wittering about Wrexham possibly re-entering the Football league, partly because they now have Hollywood backing.

Jersey having a chance to get promoted to the Rugby Premiership should be the big story - but because the dogs in their manger say no, the march on the island is utterly ignored.

Te Championship needs some serious marketing, does it even have a PR department?

Perhaps with a compelling behind the scenes documentary, like Drive to Survive or Welcome to Wrexham.




Thanks Camquin, you are right, if this game was for promotion to the PL the game would be enormous, but sadly it will just have to remain enormous for those who care. Jersey’s story and that if Ealing’s has been epic with both sides ripping through the leagues, but to achieve the accolade of Champions each side know that they have to beat the other team today…. And then win next week of course. No mean feat and the team that prevails would have deserved the title.
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Originally posted by Brizzer Brizzer wrote:

If Wasps are unable to field a side, then I get it, although it will leave us with a division of 11… again!!
However, if they relegate the bottom side and include Wasps then this is nothing short of disgraceful.

No it won't?
You'll be 13 if they enter and 12 if they don't.  Winners of Nat 1 are coming up to replace the relegated side regardless.
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