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tigerburnie 
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Camquin
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 10:58 |
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tigerburnie
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 10:59 |
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It seems the cartel is still in full working dis order then
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 11:04 |
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The only (slight) surprise is that the content of the article doesn't quite back up the headline...Whether that's because they don't understand the rules of grammar, or because they're trying to sensationalise their own article I don't know....
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tigerburnie
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 11:07 |
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I'd say both, the standard of journalism these days is similar to the tv show "Drop the dead donkey"
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tigerburnie
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 11:15 |
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No mention of clearing their debts, just have a new franchise for the brands, no details yet, but there's a nasty odour about this. Three good Championship clubs being bed blocked.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 13:45 |
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What happens top the 10's of millions pounds worth of debt owing to everybody? Is that just swept under the table?
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tigerburnie
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 13:53 |
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Good question, but don't hold your breath waiting for a sensible answer
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 15:06 |
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Something is rotten in the state of Denmark if this is seriously been considered as a real idea.
Two teams without grounds plus a ground without a team and not a penny to rub together between them. Those clubs that do watch their pennies and pay their debts must wonder why they do it as it doesn't seem to bring them any advantage. |
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 15:39 |
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But what is actually on offer? What does the franchisee get out of the arrangement apart from the certainty of losing 2m+ each season. The RFU/Prem don't have a business model which is attractive to any investor.
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tigerburnie
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 16:02 |
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They have to do something, with folk struggling with mortgage payments and other bills, I can see crowds diminishing and more pressure on clubs trying to make ends meet.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 18:06 |
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If they took the TV money that they would have paid the three bankrupt clubs and paid that to the ten teams in Premiership 2, then you could find £3m per side. And £1m from a title sponsor and as £2m from the club's own income - then you have a budget of about £5m, or which about £2.4m could go to players, so am average wage of £60k for a squad of 40. But no club would pay that, they would look at the extra £9m or £10m available to the Premiership sides and offer salaries of £120k to try to win promotion - and the right to lose more money.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 18:09 |
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[/QUOTE] I'd say both, the standard of journalism these days is similar to the tv show "Drop the dead donkey" [/QUOTE]
I now have a vision of Damian Day reporting amidst the ashes of English Rugby, whilst holding a child's teddy bear!!!
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If only Webb-Ellis hadn't given them the ball back!
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 18:11 |
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Sadly players now think they can get these huge salaries and if they are not here, then they will go abroad, that messes up the RFU plans to fill Twickenham, it's madness, but I fully expect the turkeys to vote for Christmas and raise the salary cap so they can keep buying players to try an but a european cup.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 18:32 |
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The surprise is Prem 2, I thought it was starting 24/25.
The article suggests its 25/26. Or are three franchises about to get dumped on at the end of 24/25?
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Looking forward to new beginnings.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 18:37 |
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How many spots are there in the French and Japanese leagues for English players. |
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 18:56 |
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I'd say both, the standard of journalism these days is similar to the tv show "Drop the dead donkey" [/QUOTE]
I now have a vision of Damian Day reporting amidst the ashes of English Rugby, whilst holding a child's teddy bear!!! [/QUOTE] While Dave Charnley has a side bet on the outcome 
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"What I need is a strong drink and a peer group"
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 19:23 |
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One that is readable The most likely pathway would involve a move to a franchise system that will see clubs able to gain entry if they can prove they meet a revised minimum standards criteria that goes beyond having a stadium with a capacity of 10,000 but is also likely to include levels of support, strength of brand name, size of social media following and a long-term vision for growth.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 19:24 |
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Any other sport, this would be considered unsporting.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 19:55 |
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I've merged two threads into one and moved this to the Championship forum.
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