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As this is a Cup competition, I assume gates are being split 60%/40% as is normal Clown
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I'd imagine players at Caldy and Amptill are looking forwards to playing at Welford Road and it will be like old time when the Tigers go to Goldington Road.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote FHLH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 17:58
Originally posted by Mark Smith Mark Smith wrote:

“Us” meaning Newcastle.

And the direct flight is also open to fans.
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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Bedford have some nice local derbys against Sale, Newcastle and Caldy to look forward to, including away trips to the first 2. Not sure the income from our home games (which clash with England RWC games) will cover the travel expenses…

Who came up with this tosh? Another incredible display of ineptitude by the RFU. I think everyone involved would rather have had pools done geographically than seeded. Feel like Bedford and Doncaster could’ve agreed to an “operational swap”

How difficult would’ve it been to do

Sale
Newcastle
Doncaster
Caldy
Nottingham 

Leicester
Northampton
Bristol
Bedford
Ampthill
Coventry

Exeter
Bath
Gloucester
Hartpury
Pirates
Jersey 

Saracens
Quins
Ealing
London Scottish 
Cambridge 

Not ideal for Nottingham, Cambridge or Bristol (and nothing convenient for Jersey), but it’s considerably better than what we’ve been given.

No doubt the Burrow will show the England games, not sure if the Marquee has a TV. Does Scrum Hall still have a Telly?
The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 16:39
Originally posted by Mark Smith Mark Smith wrote:

“Us” meaning Newcastle.

And the direct flight is also open to fans.

Thanks. Reason for asking was that perhaps Exeter requested the switch… not that there’s any guarantee we’ll find out, or that it really matters…
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mark Smith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 16:07
“Us” meaning Newcastle.

And the direct flight is also open to fans.
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No issue for Falcons travelling to Exeter, well it is if you are a fan, which sort of sums up the problem!!! And strangely Falcons desperately need fans
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 15:16
I agree with those who’ve flagged the positives of this, but also think the no home fixtures v Prem sides for LS & Camb, based on last season’s performance, is a pity. What were Camb meant to do - finish higher than 1st in Nat 1?

Those accusing the RFU of mis-organising this competition are missing the point - it’s organised by Prem Rugby & invites have only been issued with strings attached. Not perfect, but those are the cards that have been dealt.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote islander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 15:10
Originally posted by Mark Smith Mark Smith wrote:

Newcastle to Exeter isn’t a problem travel-wise, there’s a direct flight.

The change in the draw was nothing to do with us.

‘Us’ being Newcastle? Or Newcastle and Exeter?
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Perhaps it's easy to moan, but I am just pleased to see it finally happening. And there is always the chance to improve with experience.

I see someone said Pools were based on League finishing position, with a couple of agreed "swops". Reckon that's as decent an approach as any. I understand the sentiment for a regional arrangement, but lets be honest after a couple of years we will all be moaning we keep playing the same teams.

Some bits we will be good, some bits will be crap - but, at least, Premiership squads [I am going to hestitate to say teams] will be playing Championship teams.



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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

Bedford have some nice local derbys against Sale, Newcastle and Caldy to look forward to, including away trips to the first 2. Not sure the income from our home games (which clash with England RWC games) will cover the travel expenses…

Who came up with this tosh? Another incredible display of ineptitude by the RFU. I think everyone involved would rather have had pools done geographically than seeded. Feel like Bedford and Doncaster could’ve agreed to an “operational swap”

How difficult would’ve it been to do

Sale
Newcastle
Doncaster
Caldy
Nottingham 

Leicester
Northampton
Bristol
Bedford
Ampthill
Coventry

Exeter
Bath
Gloucester
Hartpury
Pirates
Jersey 

Saracens
Quins
Ealing
London Scottish 
Cambridge 

Not ideal for Nottingham, Cambridge or Bristol (and nothing convenient for Jersey), but it’s considerably better than what we’ve been given.
So Bluesman, you've managed in five minutes to produce something 100% better than what has been actually delivered. What has been actually delivered is nevertheless, 100% better than just playing the Championship Cup (again).
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Bedford have some nice local derbys against Sale, Newcastle and Caldy to look forward to, including away trips to the first 2. Not sure the income from our home games (which clash with England RWC games) will cover the travel expenses…

Who came up with this tosh? Another incredible display of ineptitude by the RFU. I think everyone involved would rather have had pools done geographically than seeded. Feel like Bedford and Doncaster could’ve agreed to an “operational swap”

How difficult would’ve it been to do

Sale
Newcastle
Doncaster
Caldy
Nottingham 

Leicester
Northampton
Bristol
Bedford
Ampthill
Coventry

Exeter
Bath
Gloucester
Hartpury
Pirates
Jersey 

Saracens
Quins
Ealing
London Scottish 
Cambridge 

Not ideal for Nottingham, Cambridge or Bristol (and nothing convenient for Jersey), but it’s considerably better than what we’ve been given.


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Newcastle to Exeter isn’t a problem travel-wise, there’s a direct flight.

The change in the draw was nothing to do with us.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SK 88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2023 at 10:59
Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

That’s a rubbish draw. One home game against a Premiership team is atrocious. 

At least you get a Premiership club at Home! Like you, Cambridge only have two home fixtures, but then with only 5 games that would always be the case for some teams. You might think that for those with 2 home games, a Premiership side could be included as a trade off. However, it's done. Still can't find the full pool lists anywhere. Error 404 comes up a lot
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Bristol on a Friday night will be a challenge for away supporters! 


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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

Fixtures & pools being released tomorrow.

I've seen a "leak" (accidentally put live article) that had Tigers welcoming Caldy & Ampthill to Welford Road and travelling to renew rivalries with Bedford at Goldington Road. Plus Sale & Newcastle as the Prem teams. 

I'd seen a leak that had Leicester at Jersey - presumably these pools have been evolving... 

The official announcement says Leicester & Exeter swapped groups for "operational" reasons and Nottingham/Clady swapped with London Scottish/Cambridge.  The rest was fully structured on finishing position.  Looking at the make up of the two pools I suppose it does avoid the only actually tricky travel in the mainland UK of the North East to the South West.  


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Originally posted by FHLH FHLH wrote:

Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

That’s a rubbish draw. One home game against a Premiership team is atrocious. 

At least you get a Premiership club at Home! Like you, Cambridge only have two home fixtures, but then with only 5 games that would always be the case for some teams. You might think that for those with 2 home games, a Premiership side could be included as a trade off. However, it's done. Still can't find the full pool lists anywhere. Error 404 comes up a lot
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Sun Sept 10th - London Scottish v Jersey Reds
Sat Sept 16th - London Scottish v Doncaster Knights
Sat 23rd Sept - Bath v London Scottish
Sat 30th Sept - Exeter Chiefs v London Scottish
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Originally posted by Donnyknightfan Donnyknightfan wrote:

That’s a rubbish draw. One home game against a Premiership team is atrocious. 

At least you get a Premiership club at Home! Like you, Cambridge only have two home fixtures, but then with only 5 games that would always be the case for some teams. You might think that for those with 2 home games, a Premiership side could be included as a trade off. However, it's done. Still can't find the full pool lists anywhere. Error 404 comes up a lot
 Is this a subliminal message? 

Bristol on a Friday night will be a challenge for away supporters! 


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