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    Posted: 11 Sep 2023 at 09:03
Probably in wrong place but:

FIXTURES & PREDICTIONS

Pool A

Archers 4-1  Pury (Fri 15 Sept, 19:45) Close home win

Quins 2-5 Cov (Sat 16 Sept, 15:00) Should be a brilliant game

Sarries 5-2 Glaws (Sat 16 Sept, 14:00) Could go either way

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Falcons  5-1 Blues (Fri 15 Sept, 19:45) Blues to get 4 try bonus

Sharks 5-2 Tiggers (Fri 15 Sep, 19:45) Another brilliant contest

Caldy 5-2 Amps (Sat 16 Sept, 15:00) Could go either way

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Bath  2-5 Jersey (Sat 16 Sept, 13:00, TNT SPORTS) Stop laughing it might happen!

Chiefs 1-4 Pirates  (Sat 16 Sep, 15:00) Or a shed load of Cornishmen would know the reason why.

Pool C/D

London Scottish 0-5 Donny (Sat 16 Sept, 15:00) Banker Donny going for it this year

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Bears 5-2 Ealing (Sun 17 Sept, 14:30) Could be really close

Saints 4-1 Blood & Sand (Sat 16 Sep, 15:00) Could go either way

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Bears v Ealing will depend a lot on Bristol's team. A full strength or near enough team from Bristol & it should be a top game, another kiddies team like this week and Ealing will romp to another win.

I personally doubt Cov will win away at Quins who will likely go a bit stronger this week than last.  Jersey definitely could do Bath, but the Rec is a massive fortress & will be a factor in a tight game.

Will Exeter let Pirates play their DRs against them?  Serious question btw!
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Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

Bears v Ealing will depend a lot on Bristol's team. A full strength or near enough team from Bristol & it should be a top game, another kiddies team like this week and Ealing will romp to another win.

I personally doubt Cov will win away at Quins who will likely go a bit stronger this week than last.  Jersey definitely could do Bath, but the Rec is a massive fortress & will be a factor in a tight game.

Will Exeter let Pirates play their DRs against them?  Serious question btw!

None of the Chiefs’ D/R/s played for the Pirates on Friday. I suspect we won’t see them until the League starts.
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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

Bears v Ealing will depend a lot on Bristol's team. A full strength or near enough team from Bristol & it should be a top game, another kiddies team like this week and Ealing will romp to another win.

I personally doubt Cov will win away at Quins who will likely go a bit stronger this week than last.  Jersey definitely could do Bath, but the Rec is a massive fortress & will be a factor in a tight game.

Will Exeter let Pirates play their DRs against them?  Serious question btw!

None of the Chiefs’ D/R/s played for the Pirates on Friday. I suspect we won’t see them until the League starts.
Seems a shame for these lads to miss out on game time. Perhaps they will get a run out at St Peter against Jersey next week. 
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My Guesses:

Pool A

Nottingham 4-1  Hartpury

Harlequins 4-1 Coventry

Saracens 4-1 Gloucester

Pool B

Newcastle  5-2 Bedford

Sale 5-2 Leicester

Caldy 5-2 Ampthill

Pool C

Bath  4- Jersey

Exeter 5-0 Pirates  

Pool C/D

London Scottish 0-5 Doncaster

Pool D

Bristol 1-5 Ealing

Northampton 5-0 Cambridge
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My predictions are 2 more prem scalps for Ealing (comfortably) and Cov (narrowly) and a Jersey win over Bath (by 7-14). All other prem vs champ will be comfortable wins for the prem team, either 5-0 or 5-1 with a losing try bonus.

More broadly, think those 3 are going to be a class above anyone else again this season. Cov will narrow the gap, but if Ealing don’t win the league comfortably I don’t understand how Ben Ward keeps his job.


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Nottingham 4-1  Hartpury

Harlequins 4-1 Coventry

Saracens 4-1 Gloucester

Newcastle  5-1 Bedford

Sale 5-2 Leicester

Caldy 5-2 Ampthill

Bath 4-1Jersey

Exeter 5-0 Pirates  

London Scottish 0-5 Doncaster

Bristol 2-5 Ealing

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Originally posted by cheshire exile cheshire exile wrote:

Originally posted by SK 88 SK 88 wrote:

Bears v Ealing will depend a lot on Bristol's team. A full strength or near enough team from Bristol & it should be a top game, another kiddies team like this week and Ealing will romp to another win.

I personally doubt Cov will win away at Quins who will likely go a bit stronger this week than last.  Jersey definitely could do Bath, but the Rec is a massive fortress & will be a factor in a tight game.

Will Exeter let Pirates play their DRs against them?  Serious question btw!

None of the Chiefs’ D/R/s played for the Pirates on Friday. I suspect we won’t see them until the League starts.

15 Kyle Moyle 14 Will Trewin 13 Matt McNab (23 Ioan Evans, 51) 12 Joe Elderkin 11 Arthur Relton, 10 Tom Pittman (22 Iwan Jenkins, 51) 9 Ruaridh Dawson (21 Alex Schwarz, 62); 1 Leftheri Zigiriadis (18 Jack Andrew, 51) 2 Morgan Nelson (16 Rhys Williams, 62) 3 Marlen Walker (17 Fin Richardson, 53) 4 Josh King (19 Steele Barker, 62) 5 Will Britton 6 John Stevens (captain; 20 Harry Dugmore, 54) 7 Will Gibson 8 Ben Grubb.

I believe these in bold are all Exeter players on D/R? 

Though looking at it like that I doubt Exeter will withdraw them or they'd make loads of difference.


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Nottingham 5-1 Hartpury ... Tight game this, but home advantage to prevail

Harlequins 2-4 Coventry ... Cov will be my surprise package for the season, both in the cup and the league. Very entertaining game, lots of points, Championship to mark their mark.

Saracens 4-1 Gloucester ... Sarries to win a tight game.

Newcastle 5-1 Bedford ... Bedford will give this a real go, but will ship too many points, despite scoring a few themselves.

Sale 5-0 Leicester ... Sale will have more available to them than Tigers will.

Caldy 5-2 Ampthill ... This could really go either way, but a great day of rugby in stall for those attending. No losers in this one!!

Bath 1-4 Jersey ... Jersey will take this very seriously and could upset a poor Bath side. It will be close and could easily go either way.

Exeter 5-0 Pirates ... Full house of travelling Cornishmen for this game, but i think that Exeter will prove to be a little too strong....I would love to be there though.

London Scottish 0-5 Doncaster ... LS should get some points on the board, but it won't be enough. Donny by 3 or 4 scores

Bristol 0-5 Ealing ... Will Bristol now begin to take this competition seriously? If they don't then ET will have an absolute field day.

Northampton 5-0 Cambridge ... Saints will be too strong for the newbies I am afraid.
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Northampton's coach has said their usual pre season is 2 or 3 matches.

I take from that they will start to put out stronger sides from end of September onwards.

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Nottingham 4-1  Hartpury

Harlequins 4-1 Coventry

Saracens 4-1 Gloucester

Newcastle  4-1 Bedford

Sale 4-1 Leicester

Caldy 4-1 Ampthill

Bath 1-4Jersey

Exeter 5-0 Pirates  

London Scottish 0-5 Doncaster

Bristol 1-4 Ealing

Northampton 5-0 Cambridge
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Jersey Reds squad v Bath Rugby (A) 2023/24 Premiership Rugby Cup, pool C round 2, The Recreation Ground, Saturday September 16th, k-o 1pm (* competitive debut)

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Same Ealing side as last week with the exception of a couple of injury swaps, in particular Cornish coming into the starting line up. Pretty strong side, but would have liked to have seen a few of the newer signings such as Williams, Twelvetrees or Williams. Maybe they are injured, or maybe they are being held out of what is meant to be a developmental competition.

Bristol side also looks much stronger than the sacrificial lambs they put out against Exeter last weekend. Should be a good contest. I still think Ealing will edge it.


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Nottingham 4-1  Hartpury - Homefield advantage

Harlequins 1-4 Coventry - Why not?

Saracens 4-1 Gloucester - Ealing signed all of Gloucesters good players.

Newcastle  4-1 Bedford - Codling back in the Champ ;)

Sale 1-4 Leicester - Leicester seem to be taking this semi-seriously.

Caldy 4-1 Ampthill - as an Ealing fan, I believe Caldy can beat anyone at home.

Bath 1-4Jersey - Bath looks to be putting out a youngish team again

Exeter 5-1 Pirates  - I wonder if this will be a sell out. Sure to be a great atmosphere.

London Scottish 0-5 Doncaster - I can't believe in Scottish, even if they did escape the drop.

Bristol 1-4 Ealing - Suspect this will be a belter, with Ealing just to pip it off the back of their experienced halfback combination.

Northampton 5-0 Cambridge - one way traffic as I think Northampton will try a bit harder at home.
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Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

My predictions are 2 more prem scalps for Ealing (comfortably) and Cov (narrowly) and a Jersey win over Bath (by 7-14). All other prem vs champ will be comfortable wins for the prem team, either 5-0 or 5-1 with a losing try bonus.

More broadly, think those 3 are going to be a class above anyone else again this season. Cov will narrow the gap, but if Ealing don’t win the league comfortably I don’t understand how Ben Ward keeps his job.

I don't think any club will win the championship comfortably this season. As well as the three you identify Blues, Donny & Pirates are well capable of beating anyone on their day (particularly at home) and the rest can all cause an upset like Ravers did against Ealing last season. I think the stronger squads will regularly beat each other and no club will get anywhere near 100 points this time around. 
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Bluesman11 Bluesman11 wrote:

My predictions are 2 more prem scalps for Ealing (comfortably) and Cov (narrowly) and a Jersey win over Bath (by 7-14). All other prem vs champ will be comfortable wins for the prem team, either 5-0 or 5-1 with a losing try bonus.

More broadly, think those 3 are going to be a class above anyone else again this season. Cov will narrow the gap, but if Ealing don’t win the league comfortably I don’t understand how Ben Ward keeps his job.

I don't think any club will win the championship comfortably this season. As well as the three you identify Blues, Donny & Pirates are well capable of beating anyone on their day (particularly at home) and the rest can all cause an upset like Ravers did against Ealing last season. I think the stronger squads will regularly beat each other and no club will get anywhere near 100 points this time around. 

Bluesman always seems to have a bit of a downer on our squad. It is better than last year.

Tonight is going to be tough with the side Falcons have put out!

15 Louis Brown, 14 Adam Radwan, 13 Zach Kerr, 12 Matias Orlando (captain), 11 Iwan Stephens, 10 Josh Thomas, 9 Josh Barton; 1 Phil Brantingham, 2 Ollie Fletcher, 3 Richard Palframan, 4 Tim Cardall, 5 Sebastian de Chaves, 6 Ollie Leatherbarrow, 7 Marcus Tiffen, 8 John Kelly.

Replacements: 16 Michael van Vuuren, 17 Adam Brocklebank, 18 Murray McCallum, 19 Freddie Lockwood, 20 Guy Pepper, 21 Ben Douglas, 22 Louie Johnson, 23 Ben Redshaw.

Bedford Blues: 15 Matt Worley, 14 Seán French, 13 Ethan Grayson, 12 Jordan Venter, 11 Pat Tapley, 10 Louis Grimoldby, 9 James Lennon; 1 Jamie Jack, 2 Jacob Fields, 3 Bryan O’Connor, 4 Robin Williams, 5 Alex Woolford, 6 Luke Frost, 7 Kieran Curran, 8 Joe Howard

Replacements: 16 James Fish, 17 Joey Conway, 18 Oisin Heffernan, 19 Geordie Irvine, 20 George Patten, 21 Jac Arthur, 22 Matt Arden, 23 Michael Le Bourgeois.
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