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WEvans
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To be fair English clubs hardly need to go to Europe to make a financial loss do they?
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SK 88
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Yes that's been the case for the entirety of the European Cup in all its forms.
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Delamas
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...so, will Quins and Saints both make a financial loss on their away semi-finals ? (!)
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Paul10
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It's sillier than I thought. The monies raised in the rest of the champions cup are shared equally between the 3 leagues (urc, prem top14). Prem share this prize equally amongst the 10. |
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tulip
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Well we have seen how travel arrangements have impacted the Champions cup this year.
Will that have an impact on this
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WEvans
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I read this bit from Steve's post yesterday:
"Reports say the format of the Champions Cup could be changed to make room in the calendar for the new event". Then I read your interpretation: "The new comp won't have an impact on player welfare/duration of season because the 'North v South' KO games will be instead of the Champions Cup KO stage for that season..." |
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islander
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Several people either haven't read/absorbed the details of the new competition flagged by Steve@Mose at 1857 yesterday, or discounted them because they don't suit their arguments. The new comp won't have an impact on player welfare/duration of season because the 'North v South' KO games will be instead of the Champions Cup KO stage for that season...
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Paul10
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I've assumed Rugby works like most sports....
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Richard Lowther
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I've had a quick look for the figures but I can't find them.
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Paul10
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If only we all had Leinster sized budgets...
Players already play too many games for their welfare and not enough for the sport to work financially.
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tigerburnie
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English players have to sit out on their club games, so fans get to watch the second team quite a lot, this is exactly what Leinster have been doing for years.
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Camquin
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That what I was thinking, if you have domestic season until May, this in June, then International tours in July and pre-season in August - when do the players get a rest?
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FHLH
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Finances aside, whatever happened to player welfare? More high profile matches necessitates larger squads. I wonder where this came from? Good thing is that it's only every four years |
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Paul10
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There has to be demand for something to grow.
Will the Saints v Bulls sell out? Hearsay has it that lots of season tickets were returned and the Bulls are resting their A line players. Baxter mentions the extra travel costs but forgets the extra income from prize money (1/4 final must be more than last 16) and big home matches.
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Delamas
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...but he specifically agrees with 'growing the game'. Once again however the plans have preceded the funding and finances.
(Meanwhile, Chiefs are incurring significant costs for this weekend's travel to Toulouse at short notice).
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FHLH
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Whilst the idea is good, as ever, it's only Baxter who puts a sensible approach. Grow the game would be better including Tier 2 clubs from Europe and Australasia. Clubs have no cash at the moment.
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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tigerburnie
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Leicester Tigers are playing Georgia Black Lions on May 3rd, clubs could very easily play some of the emerging nations clubs or National sides to help, pre season friendlies spring to mind to get the ball rolling.
I remember watching Georgia at Welford Road years ago, this could easily fit in giving sides experience, sure this could include Championship sides as well.
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islander
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bit curmudgeonly of Baxter IMHO - this seems like a decent concept to me, and he would do well to put on his 'grow the game' trousers...
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Steve@Mose
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Rob Baxter: Exeter Chiefs boss wary of new world club competition plans
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FHLH
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Can't see Russia v Ukraine going well anytime in the next 50 years[/QUOTE] Details, details
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"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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