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    Posted: 13 Mar 2024 at 11:17
Japan head coach says 'no reason' team cannot be top-four side

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There is no reason why Japan cannot become one of the world's top four teams, head coach Eddie Jones said.

Jones, 64, took charge of Japan, 12th in the world rankings, in December.

He left his previous role as Australia head coach after overseeing their worst display at a Rugby World Cup - they went out at the pool stage in France.

"We need to create a new style of play that is adventurous, that suits Japanese instincts, that is attacking," the former England boss said.

"There's no reason why we can't jump into the top four."

Jones, whose first game in charge is against England on 22 June, says he wants to bring on new talent, and find the rugby equivalent of Japanese baseball superstar Shohei Ohtani, a two-way player for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

He said: "It's about how we can make young players be really ambitious in wanting to be the best player they can and create the next rugby Ohtani."
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Seems he was talking to Japan before the World Cup, never liked him, my abiding memory of 2003 is the look on his face and the Aussie PM when Martin Johnson raised the Web Ellis Cup
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In fairness to EJ, he shook up English rugby and refreshingly decided to pick players on form and not on reputation, you had to be the best player in your position in the country. Suddenly the Premiership improved as all players thought they had an equal chance . . . that lasted through to the first WC and his zenith was the semi final against NZ, the best rugby I have ever seen England play.

Then things started to change and rather than picking on form he picked on previous form . . so the likes of Billy Vunipola was continually picked ahead of numerous 8's in form etc etc so the decline began. He should have left after the first WC with a huge reputation     he is now mimicking a certain Jose Mariniho!

I hope Borthwick is brave an purely picks on form for the next 6 nations.
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I think Big Eddie would do well in Japan
"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Guess who Japan play next?...
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Let's not forget what he did for England in the first three or four years as head coach. Few England supporters had any gripes then.
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Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

Does that mean the RFU have to reappoint him next.

Let’s hope not. He’s 63 & would I assume be aiming to go 4 years up to next RWC. Mind you, results would need to improve: 2 wins out of 9 with Wobblies this year, 5/12 with England in 2022…
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Only if he flukes a win against South Africa. Then we will pull out all the stops to get him without any proper interview process. We will then talk loudly about building towards something.
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Does that mean the RFU have to reappoint him next.
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A real shocker... 

Eddie Jones: Japan appoint former England coach for second time - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67703042 ;
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English media are obsessed with him.

I have a friend who is a sports editor at a broadsheet.

As far as clicks go, Eddie Jones basically is rugby for him.

I explained I couldn't care less, EJ is just a coach. Give me more about matches.

He said, doesn't matter. The web traffic doesn't lie.
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Departing coach says he has no regrets over Wallabies exit

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Eddie Jones insists he has no regrets about resigning as Australia head coach after less than a year in charge.

The Wallabies failed to reach the knockout stages of the recent World Cup, a first in their history.

"I went in there with a plan and the contract reinforced the plan and the commitment of both myself and Rugby Australia to fulfil obligations and we had a bit of discourse in the obligations," said Jones.

"So why should I have any regrets?"

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"Post the World Cup there was always going to be a decision to be made whether we were going to change Australian rugby or not," said Jones.

"I went in with a plan and had a commitment from Rugby Australia what that looked like.

"When the unity of where we were going wasn't the same, not because of the lack of desire from Rugby Australia, but there's other forces at play, then the only thing I could do was resign.

"The results are disappointing, but I went in there with a plan to change Australian rugby, which not only involves the team, but the system to put it together.

"When you've had 20 years of unsuccessful rugby that's because of the system and the system needs to change.

"I went in with a plan of how to change the system and that's unable to be changed. I felt my job would be compromised for the next four years, which I wasn't prepared to do.

Jones continued: "The disappointing thing was I had a vision about what needed to be done and the two parties weren't able to come to an agreement on what needed to be done.

"I don't want to work for someone like that again because it's so hard. When you're a smaller [rugby] country like Australia, you need to have everyone working together.

"It makes it very difficult and you're relying on chance, on a couple of freak players to come through. You've got to be more purposeful about that."

Jones continually insists he does not have another job lined up. Last month it was reported that he was interviewed by Japan, whom he coached from 2012 to 2015, days before the World Cup started.

"I think it is a red herring," he added.

"Look at Australian rugby, over the last 20 years we have had no success, limited success and we needed to change things.

"Now we are trying to say a supposed interview was the reason why Australia had a bad World Cup. That is a load of rubbish."

Jones has ruled out the idea of coaching the British and Irish Lions on their 2025 tour of Australia.

"I have moved from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere," he said.

"I had my go with England, I loved coaching England, and I wouldn't want to be involved in the Lions. Not at all.
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

It does amaze me how a nation that dominated rugby 25 years ago fell so far and got surpassed by so many sports.


It has always been the poor relation amongst those sports
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Are we talking Australia. 
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Originally posted by corporalcarrot corporalcarrot wrote:

Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

It does amaze me how a nation that dominated rugby 25 years ago fell so far and got surpassed by so many sports.
Are you referring to England?
Don't remember England dominating World Rugby 25 years ago
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Originally posted by Robb Robb wrote:

It does amaze me how a nation that dominated rugby 25 years ago fell so far and got surpassed by so many sports.
Are you referring to England?
Dont kick it. Pick it up and GO FORWARD.
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It does amaze me how a nation that dominated rugby 25 years ago fell so far and got surpassed by so many sports.
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Originally posted by tigerburnie tigerburnie wrote:

For the first time in my life I tend to agree with Ugo Monye, this stinks, the Aussies must be livid.
My son in law is from Melbourne. He didn’t even know who Eddie Jones was.
You’ve got AFL,Cricket, NRL,Soccer and then Rugby Union. 
The small minority of Aussies who support Rugby Union will be bothered but it won’t be big news


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For the first time in my life I tend to agree with Ugo Monye, this stinks, the Aussies must be livid.
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Originally posted by WEvans WEvans wrote:

I didn't mind Eddie destroying Aussie rugby but I really hope he doesn't do the same to Japan.

I don’t think Eddie destroyed Aussie rugby. He went with the view get rid of the old boys Unfortunately the young ones he brought in weren’t good enough. Perhaps he should have stuck with Quade Cooper, Foley and Michael Hooper as Borthwick has done with England. Probably would have made semi final as well. 
Borthwick hasn’t got anyone offering him a new job. Eddie Jones supposedly has. He will be a very wealthy man after everyone has put their faith in him but may not be welcomed back to live in retirement in Australia. Not that I think he would give a toss
 



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