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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tigerburnie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 17:58
In the days before the game took the money we had first class clubs who were "by invitation only", you could not get higher in the Merit tables, junior clubs could not climb higher, so in reality nothing has changed. It was a closed shop then and it still is, evolution is not going to change things, a revolution is required, starting with a broom going through the RFU, proper financial scrutiny of the finances at national and club level. We aren't communists, so the money is never going to be shared out equally, or even amicably, but it would be nice to know who has the dosh and where did it go.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Kimbo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 18:18
Originally posted by Greg Greg wrote:

Of the remaining 11 clubs in the Championship we know
Doncaster, Coventry and, maybe, Pirates would also want a chance but only Donny, currently, would be allowed in.

I wasn't aware that they had laid down criteria for entry (yet) to Prem 2.
Is that the case, or are you surmising that Prem '1' criteria will be carried down to Prem 2?

(Cov qualify already on capacity and much else btw. It would be a matter of having plans in place for the nonsense expansion to ratify that following the necessary examination by the powers that be. I'm not saying they'll apply, but I'd be very surprised if they don't).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raider999 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 18:21
Just waiting to see how long it is before the RFU railroad the Championship and impose the franchised Premiership 2
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote gerg_861 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 20:59

From Cornish Pirates website: The 11 Championship clubs came together today to debate their collective future: whether our league will be best served by capitalising on the potential of its commercial rights and its brand-identity to underpin a truly “whole-game solution” to tier two, or by considering a putative “Premiership 2” based on a franchise model.

 

The clubs agreed unanimously that they are opposed to the franchise model.

 

This was concluded against the backdrop of:

 

  1. our desire to find whole-game solutions rather than creating obstacles within the pyramid of club rugby
  2. significant doubt about whether there would ever be promotion and relegation into and from the Premiership – a basic question of fairness
  3. our objection to a franchise model which would allow non-meritocratic entry to P2
  4. our unwillingness to commit to a tender process

 

The Championship clubs also agreed that they would continue discussions with the RFU while simultaneously exploring concrete ways of strengthening our existing league.

 

Our aim is to sustain a second tier of English rugby that adheres to the following principles:

 

  • The Championship will be at the top of the competitive pyramid in England, open to all clubs who have the ability, aspiration and ambition to compete in it

 

  • The clubs intend to participate in the most competitive environment possible, with an ultimate objective to reach the very top, assuming there is equitable treatment by those currently controlling that route

 

  • We intend to be financially sustainable and will rigorously explore and exploit the potential of the commercial rights and brand identity that our league possesses

 

  • We will offer the highest level of professionalism affordable, aligned with the amateur ethos we hold dear and which is at the heart of the game

 

  • Through the history of our clubs, we represent the proudest traditions and values of rugby and so we will continue to build our community relationships and encourage rugby at all levels

 

  • We commit to work with the RFU and PRL to grow the game from the grassroots upwards, with a focus on developing and encouraging young players as part of a pathway to the top. This will feed through into National teams at all levels.

 

  • We will work with the RPA to set the highest standards for player welfare and education.

 

 

We hope and expect that the Rugby Football Union will wish to continue to support our league as part of a whole-game approach to solving the sport’s challenges. This league, as its principles make clear, will fulfil vital roles in the development of the game in England. It would, if permitted, also continue to act as a connecting bridge between the Premiership, the England national set-up and the rest of the sport at National League and all other levels.

 

We believe this is the only sustainable way forward. It ensures the integrity and the competitive heartbeat of our sport. It will be the best guarantee available for the success of future efforts to improve the quality of play and the quantity of participation, from top to bottom, of English rugby.

 

On the vexed matter of Promotion and Relegation, we will always believe in the right of the best to rise to the top. At present, the well-identified barriers put in our way make this a pipe-dream, but we will work unceasingly to challenge and correct this.

 

Along with other observers, we have to acknowledge the position in which the Premiership finds itself, and we all have to find a sustainable way forward. For the National Leagues and below, we would welcome the competition that our vision of the future guarantees, a future based on on-field success.

 

Having agreed these principles, the Championship clubs have authorised the Executive of the Championship to go ahead with the production of a comprehensive plan for our continuing league, to be presented to other stakeholders in the game as soon as practicable.

 

We fully appreciate the consequential effects of our decision to reject a franchise system. However, we feel certain that we have taken account of all the key components that can form a successful and sustainable recovery of rugby in this country, at least as far as it concerns the elements of the future that we can influence.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Richard Lowther Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2023 at 23:37
Fine words butter no parsnip.

This section caught my eye. 
  • We intend to be financially sustainable and will rigorously explore and exploit the potential of the commercial rights and brand identity that our league possesses.
What brand identity?  Ask the man on the Clapham omnibus if he had heard of the Championship, his answer would be no or a reference to the Football version. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 2023 at 00:37
The value may well be 6d, but if there is any, or if some can be created it should be exploited - for example by getting a sponsor or a TV contract for the league.
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